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To: redleghunter
I see you confirm the expression "personal saviour" is an extra biblical phrase, and if you disallow it that is consistent with disallowing the phrase "mother of God," albeit not ""mother of "God with us,"" which is in scripture.

I did answer your question, first by pointing out it was constructed with a name you do not pronounce correctly, and therefore I am uncomfortable with it. I am also uncomfortable with any attempt to separate Jesus from the LORD (though you may argue for the Arabic pronunciation if you believe strongly and I will entertain your argument), and secondly by substituting LORD for the Tetragrammaton. I then affirmed Mary is the mother of "the LORD Jesus Christ" and "the LORD with us," asking (I think, if you agreed). Do you agree ?

I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate 
of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.

221 posted on 04/10/2015 6:45:52 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; editor-surveyor; roamer_1
I did answer your question, first by pointing out it was constructed with a name you do not pronounce correctly, and therefore I am uncomfortable with it. I am also uncomfortable with any attempt to separate Jesus from the LORD (though you may argue for the Arabic pronunciation if you believe strongly and I will entertain your argument), and secondly by substituting LORD for the Tetragrammaton. I then affirmed Mary is the mother of "the LORD Jesus Christ" and "the LORD with us," asking (I think, if you agreed). Do you agree?

You are the first Catholic here on FR to confirm the belief Mary is the 'mother of YHWH.'

By doing so, IMO, you make her the mother of the Father and Holy Spirit as well.

225 posted on 04/10/2015 8:53:27 AM PDT by redleghunter (1 Peter 1:3-5)
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