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To: WVKayaker
Both you and Mark Driscoll probably believe the same thing about your interpretative authority. I need only apply this test and I know there is one holy catholic apostolic church which one rejects at his peril.

These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
John, Catholic chapter seventeen, in its entirety,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James,
and generally ignored by most antiCatholics these days though once upon a time, it was their Authorized Version. I suppose they are still searching for a Bible that gets better with each new translation.

97 posted on 04/07/2015 5:47:35 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; WVKayaker

Those individuals who have accepted the Gospel of Salvation, from the Messiah of Israel and are all one under him, but there are different church groups, as the Apostle John evidenced by writing down what Jesus said to the different churches in Revelation.

We have but one Savior, even though we may go to different churches.


98 posted on 04/07/2015 6:18:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: af_vet_1981

Both you and Mark Driscoll probably believe the same thing about your interpretative authority. I need only apply this test and I know there is one holy catholic apostolic church which one rejects at his peril.

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No html for now, but I can see you are fully indoctrined. You cannot say anything more than that you “believe” you are part of some grand plan from heaven. I can believe the Word of Scripture, but the word of Rome lacks the authentication from the indwelling Holy Spirit.

I know in Whom I believe, and he doesn’t live in Rome!!!

Your Scripture quote does NOT provide for any adherence to your manmade religion. Good luck working out your salvatin. I am resting in mine, already, according to my Lord!


100 posted on 04/07/2015 6:58:25 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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