Posted on 04/07/2015 3:13:37 PM PDT by Legatus
Well, you did say "entire Christian church" : )
Win, place and show. People of my parents' age and older consistently say their fathers didn't attend church regularly, didn't seem concerned about religion or their eternal destiny. (My own grandfather, an old Orangeman, worked the night shift on the railroad and spent the days drinking in the basement with his cat.)
No matter what time period you lived in, from the days Jesus walked the earth until today, there were always those who turned to Him and those who didn't. Those who didn't had reasons that sounded good to them and their contemporaries. Those who did had Christ.
Every denomination begins to implode and shrink into itself when it is no longer Biblically accurate and no longer culturally relevant.
While it will isn’t seen by the militant FRoman Catholics, the Catholic church is in this position today. It is in the position of recruiting priests from the Anglican tradition and from overseas.
The Catholic church is a mission field today. Those who rejoice in seeing men come to saving faith in Christ, rejoice along with the angels when one comes to faith.
What does Rome intend to convert men to???
They don't want to feel weak or dependent.
But that is what our relationship with God is. We are weak but He is strong. :)
I don't see why living in the suburbs rather than the cities means a change of voting habits. Wherever it is located, the Catholic vote still matters, and it too often goes the wrong way.
Even when Irish Catholics ran the major cities they tended to be Democrats (and corrupt).
What do the Quakers and leftist Jews have anything to do with driving Catholics fromt the cities?
I caught that, too. Iirc, neither the Old Testament writers, nor Jesus, nor the New Testament writers said, “Women are sheep, but men aren’t.” Oops. I’m sure they’d have included that if they’d known better.
It’s almost as if the differences between men and woman are insignificant compared to the distinction between the Deity and humanity.
Irish politicians in America have always been crooks, but they didn’t turn pro-abortion until the Kennedys led the way, with the support of Cardinal Cushing (who was gay, and a buddy of Dr. John Rock, developer of The Pill).
Wow.
I've read claims of American prelates being homsexual even in the early twentieth century, but I don't know if the claims are crazy or not. If they're not, something's been in the cards since a long time before VII.
The move to the suburbs broke up the ethnic Catholic neighborhoods and parishes, and distributed the Catholics among Protestants and Jews, and Nothings, and turned the Poles, Italians, Irish, Germans, etc., into “white people.”
One of the strategies of the Quakers and Jews was to portray all efforts to preserve, say, a Polish neighborhood as “racist.” The Poles, Italian, Germans, etc., didn’t think of themselves as “white people.” They thought of themselves as Polish, Italian, etc. And Catholic.
The bishops contributed to the destruction of the Catholic Church, under their noses, by falling for the portrayal of their own people as “racists.”
“Urban Renewal.” Started during the New Deal. Motivated entirely by hatred of the Catholic Church.
Look up Brand Blanshard and his brother Paul.
Bingo.
I think it was more of a “safety issue” with the assumption that the suburbs simply was just safer then the cities.
“I’ve read claims of American prelates being homsexual even in the early twentieth century, but I don’t know if the claims are crazy or not.”
Nowadays, every important person who is long since dead, is labeled a homosexual it seems. Abraham Lincoln, Alexander Hamilton, Jesus, every Catholic prelate of course (!), etc. Honestly, why people just assume these allegations about dead people are true is beyond me.
Prayers up for this movement.
Getting the females off the altar is step 1, IMO.
So jealous of your parish....
I chose not to make this a caucus thread so it had better not turn into another perpetual virginity battle.
Then it’s time to get very serious about coming back to the Church.
You know, I try to respect the request of Legatus and not turn this into what's wrong with catholicism and you bring this.
As I've said on other occasions and will repeat again. I am a Christian. I believe Jesus died for my sins. I've repented and confess on an ongoing basis I am a sinner and ask for His forgiveness in accordance with His Word. I cannot save myself. Only Jesus' sacrifice on the cross can cleanse me of my sins...past, present and future. I have been baptized but I know that being baptized doesn't save you. It is faith in Jesus that does. I do the best I can to follow His teachings but, like Paul, I know I come short but I continue to press on toward the goal for the prise of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
I appreciate that.
I am a Christian. I believe Jesus died for my sins. I've repented and confess on an ongoing basis I am a sinner and ask for His forgiveness in accordance with His Word. I cannot save myself. Only Jesus' sacrifice on the cross can cleanse me of my sins...past, present and future. I have been baptized but I know that being baptized doesn't save you. It is faith in Jesus that does. I do the best I can to follow His teachings but, like Paul, I know I come short but I continue to press on toward the goal for the prise of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
Sounds pretty close to what I believe, and I appreciate that too.
I knew it! It's all Hildegard of Bingen's fault!
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