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Thumbs up or thumbs down on Rome?
Reformation500 ^ | February 23, 2010 | John Bugay

Posted on 04/15/2015 10:35:02 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: LurkingSince'98
"Maybe your ‘catholic’ friends are some of the folks mentioned in this article who oppress the Catholic Church and her faithful bishop."

Yeah, they do a lot of oppressing. It's a hobby with them. In fact, one of them recently decided not to go on vacation; she said to me, "Why go to the beach when I can stay home and oppress me some bishops?"

Tell me, do people run when they see you coming?

121 posted on 04/18/2015 3:15:59 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: CatherineofAragon

You said it can’t possibly happens because you know some Catholics who...

You canno’t possibly, not even remotely know what it is to be Catholic ... because you aren’t Catholic.

Thinking you are ‘in the know’ doesn’t make it so.

It still cracks me up that little old Protestant you, knows more about Catholicism and what a Catholic experiences, than a lifelong faithful Catholic.

Protestants are funny - you think you’re Catholic.

For the Greater a Glory of God


122 posted on 04/18/2015 7:44:14 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

Mindreading is a form of making it personal.


123 posted on 04/18/2015 7:56:57 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: LurkingSince'98

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Catholics have been trashing and killing the true followers of Yeshua since catholics first showed up in the 4th century.

The “theology” of my “church” is nothing but the pure word of God.

There is zero authority given to any ‘church’ by the word.

Yeshua has only his ancient assembly that dates back to Abraham; he has no church.
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124 posted on 04/18/2015 8:07:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: pgyanke; caww; MamaB; CynicalBear

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>> “ We show with Biblical citations that there is evidence of this authority being given Her by Christ Himself.” <<

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Abominable falsehood!

Yeshua has no church! He has only the assembly that his Father gave him, which dates back to Abraham.

Matthew 16:18 speaks not of a ‘church’ but of that assembly that he would expand on the professed faith of his apostles.

Catholicism is built upon the Nicolaitanism for which Yeshua declared his hatred.
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125 posted on 04/18/2015 8:15:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: pgyanke; Dutchboy88; Campion

Posting links to threads based on pure falsehood is no argument at all.
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126 posted on 04/18/2015 8:22:47 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Religion Moderator; CatherineofAragon

Listen your Protestantt right?

When was the last time you presumed to know whether a Catholic was or was not oppressed?

If you did presume to know whether a Catholic was not oppressed, not being Catholic - wouldn’t you be guilty of mind reading?

That is exactly was the poster is saying but it must be ok for her to do because she’s Protestant!

TYPICAL RM DOUBLE STANDARD!

If a Protestant says it - it must be ok.

If a Catholic says it - it must be Mind reading.

You obviously did not read any of the posts leading up to this.

AMDG


127 posted on 04/18/2015 8:24:27 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: editor-surveyor

That’s nice.

AMDG


128 posted on 04/18/2015 8:25:51 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: Religion Moderator

Every single time some Protestant tells me what I believe when then do not know what I believe - I am going to tell them that ‘they think they’re Catholic’ by presuming to tell me what I believe.

I am going to say that EVERY SINGLE TIME.

You can call it mind-reading.

I call it a Catholic calling a spade a spade.

So ban me.

AMDG


129 posted on 04/18/2015 8:33:48 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98

I call it a catholic without a leg to stand on.

YMMV.


130 posted on 04/18/2015 8:41:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: LurkingSince'98

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The magisterium lives absolutely rent-free in the condemnation of the lake of fire.


131 posted on 04/18/2015 8:47:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Oppression of Catholics is nothing new - this from the 1500s in England.

The Stripping of the Altars: Traditional Religion in England by Eamon Duffy is an excellent study of the Protestant reformation in England by a top-notch historian. Mr. Duffy has delved deeply into the period’s primary sources including hundreds of church logs, primers, manuals, wills, and diaries. An intellectual tour de force, it is accessible to the average reader.
“The Stripping off the Altars by Eamon Duffy

The Stripping of the Altars is the story of traditional Catholics desperately trying to preserve their faith against tyrannical rulers who tear down their altars, change the language of their Mass, mock their devotions, destroy their statues, and decimate their liturgical year. It is a tale of courage amid great tragedy and it proves that the Faith in England was stolen, not lost. Most of all it presents the beauty and power of traditional Roman Catholicism.
The Stripping of the Altars is a wonderful examination of the faith of medieval Englishmen and it is an excellent complement to Cranmer’s Godly Order by Michael Davies.
The main thesis of Duffy’s book is that the Roman Catholic faith was in rude and lively health prior to the English Reformation. Duffy’s argument was written as a counterpoint to the prevailing historical belief that the Roman Catholic faith in England was a decaying force, theologically spent and unable to provide sufficient spiritual sustenance for the population at large.

Taking a broad range of evidence (accounts, wills, primers, memoirs, rood screens, stained glass, joke-books, graffiti, etc.), Duffy argues that every aspect of religious life prior to the Reformation was undertaken with well-meaning piety. Feast days were celebrated, fasts solemnly observed, churches decorated, images venerated, candles lit and prayers for the dead recited with regularity. Pre-Reformation Catholicism was, he argues, a deeply popular religion, practised by all sections of society, whether noble or peasant. Earlier historians’ claims that English religious practice was becoming more individualised (with different strata of society having radically different religious lives) is contested by Duffy insisting on the continuing ‘corporate’ nature of the late medieval Catholic Church, i.e. where all members were consciously and willingly part of a single institution.

AMDG


132 posted on 04/18/2015 8:50:45 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: editor-surveyor

It is funny that you care what I think.


135 posted on 04/18/2015 9:29:51 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98
If you did presume to know whether a Catholic was not oppressed, not being Catholic - wouldn’t you be guilty of mind reading?

Pope Pius XII wasn't Jewish, but he sure did know the Jews in Europe were being "oppressed" by the Nazis. Was Pope Pius XII mind reading?

136 posted on 04/19/2015 8:38:41 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: LurkingSince'98

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What’s funny is that you seem to think that anyone cares what you think.
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137 posted on 04/19/2015 1:27:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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