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Three Things You're Probably Getting Wrong about Praying to the Saints
Shameless popery ^ | April 20, 2015

Posted on 04/20/2015 1:46:59 PM PDT by NYer

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To: FateAmenableToChange
And as models for believers' lives, many of the RCC's recognized saints are truly worthy of contemplation, respect, and emulation.

And yet the Scriptures tell us to be like Jesus...

261 posted on 04/21/2015 6:24:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero
Sincerely, please expound a little more.

Your plea is too late!

I rarely remember my train of thought 5 minutes after I've posted something!

262 posted on 04/21/2015 6:25:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Biggirl
Just more of the same from the “YOPIOS” crowd.

Ah...

Apparently narses' mantel has fallen to you!

You'll need the image if you are going to do it right!!

 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8SJPjCbt-YM/S8plUadXevI/AAAAAAAAAaM/cfKFl-I6InQ/s1600/yopios.jpg

 

 

 

263 posted on 04/21/2015 6:28:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I don’t feel like posting all of those names. Like yours.


264 posted on 04/21/2015 6:33:42 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: ealgeone
Actually, it appears the catholic position ignores the Bible while placing more emphasis on catholic tradition to its error as noted in my post 177.

Intro of your post 177:
uhhh...the catholic forgets, or rather, wants to forget the false rcc teachings on Mary...

Do you confess, or deny, that Yeshua/Jesus is Immanuel/Emmanuel (which is scripturually interpreted below as "God with us"), and that Miriam/Mary is his mother ?

Moreover the Lord spake again unto Ahaz, saying, Ask thee a sign of the Lord thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above. But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the Lord. And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also? Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Isaiah, Catholic chapter seven, Protestant verses ten to fourteen ,
Matthew Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses twenty two to twenty three,
Matthew Catholic chapter ten, Protestant verses thirty two to thirty three,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

265 posted on 04/21/2015 6:44:30 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Elsie

Besides you ignored the beginning of the verse in Corinthians. Paul was both “Confident” and willing to be absent the body and present with Christ.

When Paul is confident of something, you probably shouldn’t dismiss it as wishful thinking.


266 posted on 04/21/2015 6:50:17 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Elsie
And yet the Scriptures tell us to be like Jesus...

Agreed, which is why if you look back through my posts on this thread you will see that I consider the RCC position on praying to saints to be either unscriptural or potentially problematic. That said, Stephen's martyrdom calls us to stand firm for the gospel in the face of torture and death. Paul's tenacity and fearlessness in spreading the gospel is something I wish I had. These are examples of what the believer can do in Christ, supported by the power of the Holy Spirit, and within the will of God. Conforming one's life to the image of Christ does not mean ignoring the examples of faithful believers before us.

267 posted on 04/21/2015 6:50:21 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: Elsie

And then you got the thief on the cross. Unless sleeping is equivalent with Paradise, the thief didn’t sleep either.


268 posted on 04/21/2015 6:51:32 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Elsie
Mallard Fillmore

ROTFL!

269 posted on 04/21/2015 6:53:31 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“He still looks like a lamb. He still looks as though He had been slain.”

You are reading a prophetic vision, which is given in symbols, as if it were the actual state of Christ. It’s not. We have seen clear descriptions of Christ’s glorified form elsewhere, not in prophetic visions, and he doesn’t look like a lamb, slain or otherwise.

Also, the New Testament is quite clear that Christ died once, and for all time:

“9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.”

Romans 6:9-10


270 posted on 04/21/2015 6:56:13 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: MamaB

++I pray to Jesus only.++

Do you not pray the Our Father prayer that Jesus gave us? Do you not ever call upon the Holy Spirit?


271 posted on 04/21/2015 7:12:32 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Elsie
Ain't YOPIOS grand? I do it all the time, and I don't particularly care who knows it. 😄😀😃🙈🙉🙊😇😂😱 Do I qualify as a HATER?😩😡
272 posted on 04/21/2015 7:17:41 AM PDT by Mark17 (Beyond the sunset, O blissful morning, when with our Savior, Heaven is begun. Earth's toiling ended)
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To: HangnJudge

++Why pray to a Saint
when one has a straight connection to G.D++

Didn’t God create us all to be ONE with Him? We are to be united with God and with one another. His love works through all of us in this way.


273 posted on 04/21/2015 7:17:59 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita
Didn’t God create us all to be ONE with Him? We are to be united with God and with one another. His love works through all of us in this way.

This theology...what religion is this?
274 posted on 04/21/2015 7:19:45 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Iscool

Words have meanings. Apparently the entire legal profession misdefines the word “prayer”. Someone should let them know.


276 posted on 04/21/2015 7:26:14 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: WayneS

++Asking someone to pray FOR you is not the same as praying TO someone.++

That looks like a communication error to me. If someone has ASKED for the intercession of a Saint, that person might say, “I prayed to St. Paul for help.” What is meant by that is that St. Paul has been asked for intercessory help..i.e. praying to God for the person who asked.


277 posted on 04/21/2015 7:29:23 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; RnMomof7
>>Please send me the name of any Catholic FReeper who has ever said that we don't pray to saints.<<

We don’t pray “to” saints. This is a mistaken way of saying we ask the saints to pray for us.

Do you pray “to” your sister? Or do you ask your sister to pray for you?

7 posted on 3/27/2015, 11:54:39 AM by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)

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A post denying Catholics pray to Mary here.

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278 posted on 04/21/2015 7:29:38 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: vladimir998

Yes.

But that has little to do with praying to saints.


279 posted on 04/21/2015 7:31:49 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: Resettozero

The one that recognizes that the Triune God has called us to be united with Him...to be united as Jesus and the Father are united.

The Bible has quite a lot to say about this topic.


280 posted on 04/21/2015 7:34:38 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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