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To: paladinan; Iscool

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>> “...born “anothen” (which can mean “again”, or “from above”)—Jesus obviously meant the latter, since He chides Nicodemus for assuming that it meant the former” <<

NEGATORY!

One must take meaning from context, and in this case context demolishes your deception: Nicodemus’ question whether he had to return to his mother’s womb strongly demonstrated that it was “Again,” not from above.


806 posted on 05/01/2015 9:44:46 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
NEGATORY! One must take meaning from context, and in this case context demolishes your deception: Nicodemus’ question whether he had to return to his mother’s womb strongly demonstrated that it was “Again,” not from above.

Good grief, man: take a breath, and dial down the rhetoric! There's no need to bring in the sneering, vitriolic language such as when you say "your deception" [cue dramatic, sinister music, here]. If you disagree with a post of mine, fine: say so; there's no need for anyone to foam at the mouth and howl their indignation.

Re: your point that the Greek word "anothen" means "again", and "NOT from above" (there's that Protestant "either/or, and not both" mentality, again), don't take my word for it: read, and learn...

Dictionary reference #1 for "anothen":

Dictionary reference #2 for "anothen":

Dictionary reference #3 for "anothen":

Dictionary reference #4 for "anothen":

Convinced, yet? BOTH MEANINGS are appropriate translations of the word... though "from above" is a bit more common, in Scripture (and is usually listed as the first definition--one usually has to go down to the second or third definition to find "again").
1,128 posted on 05/05/2015 1:55:30 PM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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