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To: daniel1212; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; roamer_1

What so now its your turn to post a straw argument?

No, it was not The “understanding of the Hebrew traditions by an esoteric few.”

It was the ancient traditions of how the feasts of Leviticus were prepared and what they meant in God’s plan, as explained to the disciples by their Messiach.

Those feasts are God’s education plan for his elect. There was not a trace of gnosticism or esoterics involved, and there is no reason for you to try to divert from the real subject at hand.

You do the adversary’s work.

There is no reason that the Holy Spirit would be leading those that worked to recolor the epistles to their own agenda. If that were the HS’s modus, there would not be so many gnostic “gospels” floating around.

I was talking about the very same kind of blind ignorance of God’s well presented plan that prevails in all the dispensational churches that teach a Barnum and Bailey gospel today.

The apostles all knew God’s plan well, as they had been tutored by Yeshua, to remove all of the Pharisee’s corruptions. That is not esoteric.

There is no lack of the Holy Spirit’s guidance in the surviving 28 copies of Matthew’s original Hebrew gospel. Likely that is the Holy Spirit’s sole provision to the preservation of the Gospel as restored by Yeshua, or those copies would not have come from such diverse parts of the world.

Every bit of your sarcasm is out of place in this discussion, but I guess that is your attempt at a smoke screen? Or do you really believe that Yeshua restored a gnostic plan?

Why did the Holy Spirit not inspire the “Gospel of Thomas,” or the “Gospel of Judas?”

Frankly your reply looks like nothing but angry thrashing.
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991 posted on 05/03/2015 1:15:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; Springfield Reformer
No, it was not The “understanding of the Hebrew traditions by an esoteric few.”...Those feasts are God’s education plan for his elect. There was not a trace of gnosticism or esoterics involved, and there is no reason for you to try to divert from the real subject at hand.

But you state that Scripture we do have in thousands of mss and translations is a "completely muffed understanding of the Hebrew traditions," "full of clumsy misunderstandings," "devoid of understanding of the very core." Leaving those who have been believing the Bible the way it was written. to be buying "curses and damnation upon themselves and their nations."

Leaving only a esoteric few who have the real deal,

You do the adversary’s work.

Me and all the bible translators and the the rest of Christianity who believe them. Well, at least we have two sides made clear. I will stay with what is written in Greek.

There is no reason that the Holy Spirit would be leading those that worked to recolor the epistles to their own agenda.

Which of course, cannot be your side.

The apostles all knew God’s plan well, as they had been tutored by Yeshua, to remove all of the Pharisee’s corruptions. That is not esoteric.

Which simply presumes that they would act according to your doctrine, left out of the Greek.

There is no lack of the Holy Spirit’s guidance in the surviving 28 copies of Matthew’s original Hebrew gospel. Likely that is the Holy Spirit’s sole provision to the preservation of the Gospel as restored by Yeshua, or those copies would not have come from such diverse parts of the world.

Mmmm. Does'nt sound like much of the word of God has endured forever after the 1st c. And of course, the the vast majority of scholars believe Matthew was originally written in Greek must be dismissed.

Every bit of your sarcasm is out of place in this discussion, but I guess that is your attempt at a smoke screen? Or do you really believe that Yeshua restored a gnostic plan?

Such absurd claims warrant some sarcasm, while your assertion of special knowledge based upon what you see what missing, is what is akin to gnosticism.

Frankly your reply looks like nothing but angry thrashing.

And "you do the adversary’s work" is so charitable, as well as relegating all but those who subscribe to your elitist remnant to being cursed for not keeping Jewish feasts.

997 posted on 05/03/2015 3:36:29 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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