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To: NRx

“I have to agree with David on this one. There are some moral issues that are cut and dry. I don’t know Ms Huffingtton and it’s God’s job to judge. But broadly speaking I don’t see how one can be pro-abortion rights and or gay marriage and still be Orthodox.”

Like I said, these are matters between an Orthodox Christian and his/her spiritual father. Quite simply, it’s not your call.

Orthodoxy, like Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, is filled with people who take advantage of “abortion rights” (can’t says as I know an Orthodoxer who thinks The Church should conduct gay marriages, though I know plenty who are neither surprised at nor care that the World allows such things). Are the sinners? Yup. Are they Orthodox? Yup.

“The Church is a hospital, and not a courtroom, for souls. She does not condemn on behalf of sins, but grants remission of sins.” +John Chrysostomos


18 posted on 05/04/2015 9:23:50 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis
...these are matters between an Orthodox Christian and his/her spiritual father.

And had the opinions of Arius or any of the other notorious heresiarchs been merely privately held doubts of the Orthodox Faith, they too would have been a matter between himself and his spiritual father. There is a matter of publicly and unrepentantly advocating positions at odds with the Faith which is a bit different than merely sinning. At some point in such cases, historically the faithful have objected and bishops and Holy Synods, not just spiritual fathers, have gotten involved.

20 posted on 05/04/2015 9:32:58 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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