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Roman Catholicism: The One True Church?
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| Stephen Meehan
Posted on 05/18/2015 6:05:47 PM PDT by Old Yeller
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To: Old Yeller
This is unadulterated rubbish. It was the Catholic Church, based on Petrine authority, that affirmed the canonical texts in AD 382. This was the case for eleven centuries. Petrine authority did not vanish live a dove taking flight with the advent of the Reformation.
For example in Matthew 18: 20
“For where two or three are gathered together unto my name, there am I in the midst of them.”
The term “in my name: has royal meaning. It is understood as meaning “in all what I teach.”
Christ taught ONE truth and established ONE Church for ALL times, and it has ONE Credo.
We don’t need 30,000 variations of Protestantism instructing different interpretations.
This is captured very well by Dr. A. David Anders, who was born, raised and educated, as an Evangelical Protestant and studied Wheaton College. He set out deliberately to show why Catholicism was wrong. He ended up a Catholic convert. Here is his short summary of his journey,
PROTESTANTISM: A CONFUSED MASS OF INCONSISTENCIES
AND TORTURED LOGIC
By the time I finished my Ph.D., I had completely revised my understanding of the Catholic Church. I saw that her sacramental doctrine, her view of salvation, her veneration of Mary and the saints, and her claims to authority were all grounded in Scripture, in the oldest traditions, and in the plain teaching of Christ and the apostles.
I also realized that Protestantism was a confused mass of inconsistencies and tortured logic. Not only was Protestant doctrine untrue, it bred contention, and could not even remain unchanged.
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:14:04 PM PDT
by
Steelfish
To: Old Yeller
I think they took language which at the time of it's original usage meant one thing..and extrapolated something that the term was never meant to communicate as time wore on.
As there was no reformed...Protestant Church when the Roman Catholic church came into being..it may have been the one true..European..Church...[ with the possible exception of the Greek Orthodox Church ]
"The term Catholic (usually written with uppercase C in English) was first used to describe the Christian Church in the early 2nd century to emphasize its universal scope."
"The word catholic (with lowercase c; derived via Late Latin catholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos), meaning "universal"[1][2]) comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου (katholou), meaning "on the whole", "according to the whole" or "in general", and is a combination of the Greek words κατά meaning "about" and ὅλος meaning "whole".[3][4] The word in English can mean either "including a wide variety of things; all-embracing" or "of the Roman Catholic faith" as "relating to the historic doctrine and practice of the Western Church.".[5] ("Catholicos, the title used for the head of some churches in Eastern Christian traditions, is derived from the same linguistic origin.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_term_%22Catholic%22 Im not necessarily a wikipedia devotee but oeted use this reference as it read like what Ive heard discussed.. Im not a wikipedia devotee
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:16:31 PM PDT
by
MeshugeMikey
("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
To: Steelfish
What does grace mean to you?
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:19:54 PM PDT
by
Old Yeller
(Civil rights are for civilized people.)
To: Old Yeller
I’m thinking the one TRUE church has no organization at all. Hmmm.
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:23:39 PM PDT
by
ThePatriotsFlag
($$$$$ Don't Defund the Government...Defund Obama and his illegal policies $$$$$)
To: ThePatriotsFlag
At this point in our country.....I think you’re right.
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:30:46 PM PDT
by
RushIsMyTeddyBear
(The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
To: Steelfish
I saw that her sacramental doctrine, her view of salvation, her veneration of Mary and the saints, and her claims to authority were all grounded in Scripture, in the oldest traditions, and in the plain teaching of Christ and the apostles.
Others see something quite different.
I also realized that Protestantism was a confused mass of inconsistencies and tortured logic.
As opposed to the Catholics organised mass of inconsistencies and tortured logic?
Not only was Protestant doctrine untrue
Hmmm, Bible-based doctrine untrue? Say it isn't so. Go back to your repetitive sayings, rosary beads, Mary statues and dead saint prayers but you won't find that in the Bible.
To: ThePatriotsFlag; RushIsMyTeddyBear
Matt 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
No mention of any One "True" Petrine-led Denomination.
To: MeshugeMikey
Protestants recognize neither the authority of the Pope, nor each other in liquor stores.
In either case, the authority of the Pope does not extend to liquor stores.
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:39:07 PM PDT
by
Kenny Bunk
(Hi! We're having a constitutional crisis. Come on over!)
To: Old Yeller
That list of Catholic “invented” doctrines is a hoot.
There is not one Protestant PROFESSIONAL historian—i.e., someone who has an actual professional reputation he cares about—who would confirm any of those preposterous statements.
Anti-Catholic screed writers have been doing this for decades, if not centuries. They find a MENTION of a dogma somewhere, and proclaim that it was INVENTED at the time it was MENTIONED.
To: BipolarBob
Give the Catholics some credit. They had the only game in town until a whole lot of people learned to read and write. Then the Catholics gave them something to read, write, and argue about.
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:41:59 PM PDT
by
Kenny Bunk
(Hi! We're having a constitutional crisis. Come on over!)
To: Kenny Bunk
Your comment is the reason that FR needs a like button. Also, after a long day at work and a long evening of canning beef stock (suddenly found myself with free grassfed, organic local cow tail) I’m sipping some Stoli Doli. It’s my favorite recipe: Pour a bottle of Stoli into a large container (I use a sun tea jug with a spigot) and add one fresh (skinned!) pineapple. Let mingle for at least a week and then enjoy over ice or mixed with fruit juices. Cheers!
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:46:17 PM PDT
by
goodwithagun
(My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
To: Steelfish
Catholicism is as Catholicism does.
And right now, this Francis fellow is doing more to put that whole ‘infallibility’ thing into question than any Pope since the Renaissance.
The Catholic Church emerged the winner out of the Dark Ages because it preserved Roman culture.
What culture, if any, is the present day Catholic Church and its Pope preserving and promoting?
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:46:22 PM PDT
by
bakeneko
To: Old Yeller
Well as Mark Twain said: “Man is the only animal that has the True Religion—several of them. ..”
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:49:05 PM PDT
by
SkyDancer
( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
To: goodwithagun
The intense disrespect you evince for my serious theological propositions is heretical in the extreme. Drink any more, unholy sir, and I shall have you anathematized.
However, I do commend your patience in letting your pagan brew 'mingle' for week and The Bretheren (and Cistern) will need your GPS coordiantes.
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:52:14 PM PDT
by
Kenny Bunk
(Hi! We're having a constitutional crisis. Come on over!)
To: BipolarBob
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:52:34 PM PDT
by
RushIsMyTeddyBear
(The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
To: bakeneko
The Pope is only infallible when speaking ex cathedra on matters of faith and morals.
>Ex cathedra meaning "On the Throne," in various classical languages.
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:54:57 PM PDT
by
Kenny Bunk
(Hi! We're having a constitutional crisis. Come on over!)
To: Arthur McGowan
They find a MENTION of a dogma somewhere, and proclaim that it was INVENTED at the time it was MENTIONED. Funny, we never see Mary given the worship, prayers, idols, teachings, studies, in the New Testament as we do in catholicism.....and that "dogma" was invented by catholicism.
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:56:24 PM PDT
by
ealgeone
To: Old Yeller
Who is this Chris guy that the author is ranting about?
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:56:27 PM PDT
by
pbear8
(the Lord is my light and my salvation)
To: Kenny Bunk
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posted on
05/18/2015 6:58:35 PM PDT
by
MeshugeMikey
("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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