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Hope for the Church: Making Disciples Out of Cultural Catholics
Aleteia ^ | May 19, 2015 | REV THOMAS BERG

Posted on 05/19/2015 2:03:39 PM PDT by NYer

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To: terycarl

Yes, indeed! I am shocked at the people who line up to receive communion who are obviously oblivious to their duty to be in a state of grace. But in my entire life, no priest has ever asked a recipient if they were in the state of Grace - they were on an honor system. That said, a priest should be giving out the Communion, not some suburbit mom in jeans. I refuse to receive from them.


21 posted on 05/19/2015 4:43:23 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: tioga

There is no such thing as window dressing unless you refuse to believe in the broken windows theory - which you probably do. The Mass is not that complicated that you cannot understand what the Latin means. Latin means that you can understand what is being said no matter where you worship around the globe. It’s why it is the CATHOLIC Church.

And if you believe what you said you believe, you should be a Jew worshipping in shul on Saturday. Nothing wrong with that.


22 posted on 05/19/2015 4:47:11 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: NYer

“What the study did not point out, but we know from experience to be the case, is that only approximately 12% of those 51 million Catholics attend mass regularly on Sundays.”

The 88% of Catholics that are not involved are a field to be evangelized.

“Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest.”

- Jesus Christ


23 posted on 05/19/2015 5:45:21 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: tioga; miss marmelstein

jesus spoke Aramaic. But he was brilliant and surrounded by Roman conquerors, so I don’t doubt he spoke and understood Latin as did the more astute Jews in the region.

I stopped going to mass around HS graduation in 1966. The next time I went was for a wedding or funeral in the mid seventies. I no longer recognized the Catholic Church. The Latin was gone there was guitar playing and folksy singing. I missed the ceremonial Latin( And btw tioga, in the Latin Mass, the homily and other parts of the Mass were in English).

I had personal (selfish) reasons for leaving church at that time. My reason for not returning is it is not the church I spent 17 years in and 10 years in catholic parochial school in.

I currently worship God by visiting his handiworks and marveling at them. My boat on Long Island Sound. A trip to my mountain hideaway, a visit to the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone. I don’t worship nature, only the creator in his own cathedral.


24 posted on 05/20/2015 3:28:23 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Oh, that’s too bad. I have St. Agnes in NYC which not only has the Tridentine Mass but also has excellent sermons - after all, it was the church of Fulton Sheen!


25 posted on 05/20/2015 4:06:08 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

I’m out in the burbs in central Suffolk on LI. As a Bronx boy I would take the subway into Manhattan at 12 years of age and not worry about potential dangers. I rarely go into greater NYC except for emergency or to drive through to elsewhere, or once every other year to a Yankees game. Not a fan of the city any more

I understand there are a few churches out here that have the Latin Mass. I should check on these.


26 posted on 05/20/2015 4:34:58 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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I’m sure there must be Catholics who understand

The Acton Institute is the hangout of Catholics who understand Austrian economics.

27 posted on 05/20/2015 10:23:40 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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