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How Can the (Catholic) Church Teach Angels?
Catholic Answers ^ | March 15, 2015 | Tim Staples

Posted on 05/20/2015 2:41:37 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Zionist Conspirator

“Why should a church that labels whole books of the Hebrew Bible (on which its claims are ultimately based) as didactic parables and “mythology” even believe in angels in the first place?”

1) Since when does a story being a “didactic parable” mean it isn’t true?

2) “mythology” - in what document from the Church?

“This goes especially for the Genesis-hating, evolutionist crazies at “Catholic Answers.”

Show me this “hate”. Can you?


21 posted on 05/20/2015 4:41:16 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Stop asking me questions. You continue to keep wrongly stating what the Catholic Church does and does not teach.


22 posted on 05/20/2015 4:50:58 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: metmom; Salvation

Take off the prot blinders and read in context, don’t cherry pick verses as all prots have been programmed to.


23 posted on 05/20/2015 4:59:08 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

Excellent!


24 posted on 05/20/2015 5:00:21 PM PDT by semaj (.People get ready, Jesus is coming!)
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To: ebb tide
Stop asking me questions. You continue to keep wrongly stating what the Catholic Church does and does not teach.

This should alert you that something is wrong.

25 posted on 05/20/2015 5:04:07 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: NYer
"Citing Scripture is now considered "protestant bashing"?"

From the article's first paragraph:

"Christians, outside of the Catholic Church, have, at best, an incomplete understanding of the power of these words"

It might not fall into the category of bashing, but it is a very condescending tone right off the bat. To paraphrase the PINO, "the author needs to get off his high horse."

26 posted on 05/20/2015 5:04:56 PM PDT by semaj (.People get ready, Jesus is coming!)
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To: verga

Take off the blinders and read what I posted.

The article is about the church teaching angels.

What with the condition of the Catholic church today, the time would be better spend teaching PEOPLE.

No wonder the church is in the shape it’s in. It’s worrying about stuff that isn’t even mentioned in Scripture.


27 posted on 05/20/2015 5:09:09 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: NYer

Tim Staples, solid as usual.

I was not aware of the following verse as a proof text for Church Authority, but how profound.

-— that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places. -—

The Church teaches the angels. How can this be? What does this mean?

Thankfully Tim includes Aquinas’ explication of the passage, which demonstrates why Aquinas is known as the “Angelic Doctor.”

Fabulous. Thanks for posting.

For anyone that’s interested, you can stream audio of Tim’s radio shows at Catholic.com

Easy to remember.


28 posted on 05/20/2015 5:10:32 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: metmom

Oh, let ‘em have their fun. Until the day angels learn to type, and THEN... those angels are going to be asking questions, the same ones WE ask I would bet...the RCCs will be complaining about the 30,000 different denominations of angels..


29 posted on 05/20/2015 5:13:55 PM PDT by smvoice ("Now is the accepted time; now is the day of salvation" 2Cor. 6:2)
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To: metmom

-— wouldn’t it behoove the church to worry about teaching THEM instead of *teaching* angels, who are not in need of salvation anyway?-—

I wasn’t aware of the passage from Ephesians, either.

Tim Staples’ provides Aquinas’ profound explication of the passage in the article, as well as the passage.


30 posted on 05/20/2015 5:16:25 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
The Church teaches the angels. How can this be? What does this mean?

God help those Catholics that believe this crap.

31 posted on 05/20/2015 5:17:27 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

Yes, there’s something wrong that person. Perhaps you don’t understand, yourself.


32 posted on 05/20/2015 5:24:55 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: NYer; fwdude; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...
Citing Scripture is now considered "protestant bashing"?

No. THIS, from the article itself, is Protestant bashing......

So why did God give us this glorious Church that possesses the authority of Jesus Christ?

So that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine… (Eph. 4:14)

The history of Protestantism is one of “children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine.”

33 posted on 05/20/2015 5:28:17 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ebb tide

You sound smart. Let’s hear it.


34 posted on 05/20/2015 5:28:40 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: NYer

This is the relevant passage from Ephesians.

. 3:8-10:

To me… this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, and to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things; that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places.

“Principalities and powers” is a reference to angels.


35 posted on 05/20/2015 5:32:20 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...
The Church teaches the angels. How can this be? What does this mean?

I don't know. Maybe something like RCIA classes for angels?

How do they sign up? How does someone know if the class is full?

How does anyone know if they show up for the class? Is it held in an empty room guessing that they're there?

How many angels can fit on the seat of a chair?

Who teaches the classes?

36 posted on 05/20/2015 5:32:54 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
I did read THE ERRORS you posted, and I am telling you that you are wrong.

Have a good day.

37 posted on 05/20/2015 5:33:56 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
“Principalities and powers” is a reference to angels.

Not necessarily. Or not necessarily only angels.

38 posted on 05/20/2015 5:34:22 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
LOL!

I thought one must be part of the RCC in order to be taught by it. How could this be? How can angels be baptized into the RCC?

39 posted on 05/20/2015 5:37:29 PM PDT by smvoice ("Now is the accepted time; now is the day of salvation" 2Cor. 6:2)
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To: NYer
Citing Scripture is now considered "protestant bashing"?

When it goers against Mea Scriptura it is. I can actually picture them covering their ears chanting "I can't hear you" over and over.

They are a sad little group deserving out prays and pity.

40 posted on 05/20/2015 5:38:25 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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