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1 posted on 05/20/2015 2:41:37 PM PDT by NYer
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Catholic ping!


2 posted on 05/20/2015 2:42:05 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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Thanks for all the quotes from the Bible!!


3 posted on 05/20/2015 2:43:04 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Protestant bashing is getting pretty old.


4 posted on 05/20/2015 2:44:33 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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How Can the (Catholic) Church Teach Angels?

Choirs of Angels
"Twelve things to know about angels"
Thinking through “angel time” (the aeon) in an orderly fashion
Catholic Catechism on the Angels
ANGELS: Their Meaning for Our World
Returning Angel [Michael Voris video]
Papal Visit to Portugal: Apparitions of the Angel
St Gemma Galgani and her Guardian Angel [Catholic Caucus]
God Sends His Angels to Watch Over and Guide Us
Angels, Part 3

Angels, Part 2
Angels, Part 1
Angels Among Us Today
God Created the Angels as Individual, Immortal Spirits with Intelligence and Free Will
The Angels in Sacred Scripture
Angels in the History of the Church
Angels - in Heaven, on Earth and in Hell
Catholic Q&A: Angels and Demons (Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer)
GOD AND THE ANGELS
Question: “Are there really such things as guardian angels?”

5 posted on 05/20/2015 2:47:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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St. Thomas says, as animals are our pets, we are Angels'.
6 posted on 05/20/2015 3:00:27 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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Why should a church that labels whole books of the Hebrew Bible (on which its claims are ultimately based) as didactic parables and "mythology" even believe in angels in the first place?

This goes especially for the Genesis-hating, evolutionist crazies at "Catholic Answers."

16 posted on 05/20/2015 4:26:08 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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Wasn't Christ made a little lower than the angels? And you think you are better than both?
17 posted on 05/20/2015 4:31:53 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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Tim Staples, solid as usual.

I was not aware of the following verse as a proof text for Church Authority, but how profound.

-— that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places. -—

The Church teaches the angels. How can this be? What does this mean?

Thankfully Tim includes Aquinas’ explication of the passage, which demonstrates why Aquinas is known as the “Angelic Doctor.”

Fabulous. Thanks for posting.

For anyone that’s interested, you can stream audio of Tim’s radio shows at Catholic.com

Easy to remember.


28 posted on 05/20/2015 5:10:32 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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This is the relevant passage from Ephesians.

. 3:8-10:

To me… this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, and to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things; that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places.

“Principalities and powers” is a reference to angels.


35 posted on 05/20/2015 5:32:20 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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This from the same website that admits catholics view the creation account in Genesis as "symbolic".

Me thinks Tim Staples isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

47 posted on 05/20/2015 6:02:38 PM PDT by ealgeone
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St. Thomas then explains that the angels are far superior to men on earth, when it comes to knowledge, as are the saints in heaven, I would add, through the beatific knowledge that they possess.

What imaginings have come out of Rome!

There is ZERO evidence for ANY of these BOASTFUL ideas!

55 posted on 05/20/2015 7:05:45 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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I'll bet this thread winds up longer than the How many can dance on the head of a pin one!
56 posted on 05/20/2015 7:06:43 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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What I find fascinating in speaking with Catholics about this is that they quote verses about the apostles and automatically substitute Church.

Just about every time the New Testament reveals the radical nature of Christ’s authority, you will find in close proximity Christ then giving a similar authority to the Church.

No! The authority is passed to the apostles. The apostles are not the same as the church. Just look at two of the verses you quoted.

Eph. 2: the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone.

1 Tim. 3 the household of God, which is the church

So if the household of God is the church and the apostles is synonymous with the church, Eph. 2 would say that the church is built upon the church.

The church is built upon the foundation, the church is not the foundation.

And you've mis-translated 1 Tim. 3. The church is the bulwark of the truth. This has also been translated as buttress. Neither bulwark nor buttress means foundation. Seriously. Finding what you want to find rather than what scripture plainly says.

66 posted on 05/20/2015 7:40:20 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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A few decades ago, Billy Graham wrote a book on the subject. I believe its title is... “Angels” (go figure!). It’s pretty good, actually.


79 posted on 05/21/2015 3:22:47 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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