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To: RitaOK
I have to ask.... what is your answer if a school teacher does the same, do we drop the institution of public schools?

Yes, we drop institution of public schools. That seems obvious. I'm not sure if you actually meant that literally, because the answer is so obviously "yes." Please let me know if I misunderstood.

Anyway, you're avoiding the question - which is whether the RCC as an institution has proven itself capable of internal reform. The answer is clearly no.

I am reminded of Stalin's famous dictum - "the cadres determine everything." Stalin - being head of the CPSU's HR department as Party Secretary - understood that a leader can give all the orders he wants, but if the bureaucracy is not with him then all orders can be ignored, subverted and so on.

This is why Salvation's reference to Vatican emissaries insisting on screening out homosexual seminarians is so laughably tragic. See, the RCC bureaucrats in charge of the screening are themselves homosexuals, or homosexual sympathizers, so the orders, like all similar orders in the past, will be roundly ignored, subverted, and otherwise held up to mockery.

Since we're talking about Stalin, how did he deal with the problem of a Trotskyite bureaucracy subverting his plans for personal aggrandizement? Jesus said we must be as clever as serpents, so let's at least take a look at his example.

I'll answer my own question. Stalin replaced the Trotsyite bureaucracy with his own. He did it by killing all the Old Bolsheviks and personally appointing his own henchmen. (I would add that this is the problem the GOP has when it gets into power - the bureaucracy is Democrat and it subverts conservative plans and nothing can work until the Democrat bureaucracy is liquidated, but I digress).

The RCC, if it hopes to stem the losses (again, it just lost Catholic Ireland), but utterly replace the current diseased, lavender clergy with psychologically healthy men. That means married men. Only married men may be ordained. Ordain all sane married deacons immediately. Set the new, married "breeder" faction against the "lavender" faction and wage relentless war against the lavenders until they are extirpated utterly.

It's the only way that stands a chance of success. Anything short of that will be subverted by the entrenched lavender RCC bureaucrats.

46 posted on 05/29/2015 10:26:41 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Gluteus Maximus; annalex

The institutional Catholic Church has failed to repent of increasingly seeking favor with the world, its errors, and the contentment of heretics.

Here is just one example: To entertain much of a discussion on a more “pastoral approach” to what is already a known abomination, that of sodomy, is a discussion that shouldn’t last very long.


50 posted on 05/29/2015 12:02:02 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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