But it was always a disqualified, but that rule was left almost entirely unenforced. One of the main points I'm trying to make with you and Salvation is that it will remain unenforced so long as the enforcers are themselves largely homosexual. Do you understand that point?
Monarchy, by the way, looks better and better everyday. You are talking to a monarchist.
Great, but this bespeaks, quite obviously, your refusal to size up the world as it really is. Monarchy? I don't know what to say. It's exactly the same issue with the patently obvious impracticability of the clerical celibacy rule. You can admire it as a fine ideal, but the results have proven disastrous in practice.
Let me ask you this. The RCC has just lost Ireland due to the sex abuse scandals caused by homosexuals in the ranks of the clergy, and it's obvious that the celibacy rule contributes (at least significantly) to the homosexual infiltration problem. Yet you remain unconvinced. So here's my question: what would it take to convince you? What additional horror committed by the RCC homosexual clergy would finally prompt you to embrace the reality that I described in detail above?
I suspect that there is nothing that the clergy could ever do that would convince you. For you and, I suppose, Salvation, the celibacy rule is a sort of tenet of the faith that you cling to without regard to all evidence to the contrary. I hope I'm wrong about that.
So, once again, is there any scenario you can imagine that might cause you to rethink your position?
“it’s obvious that the celibacy rule contributes (at least significantly) to the homosexual infiltration problem.”
The Soviet Union contributed more than anyone else to the homosexual infiltration problem, by establishing a homosexual infiltration program.
Hoodo thunk that those lovely Soviets would try to harm an enemy? And yet they did.
It is only because the modern world is sex mad that it appears to some that the celibacy rule would attract homos.
I agree: homosexual infiltration of the curia is where the Holy Inquisition should start. What are you proposing: marry them all off?
I don't know what to say
I never asked you to say anything. If you think that having professional liars rent every office in the land on a 4-year cycle is a better idea, perhaps you also like the growing national debt and crumbling infrastructure.
what would it take to convince you?
Convince me of what? I totally agree that homosexuality in the Church is a huge problem. What I don't agree is that providing pedophiles with female sexual partners is going to set a better example for the people of Ireland. We want priests that give the gift of their sexuality to God and wish to be celibate. We largely have those men. Today, the younger the priest, the better he is: chaste, orthodox, devoted. The crisis is over.
the celibacy rule is a sort of tenet of the faith
It is generally a good idea to learn something about the subject, them post opinions on it. Celibacy is not a dogma of the faith. It is what is called a discipline: something that can be changed by the Magisterium of the Latin Church. The argument is not that married people cannot be priests in the Latin Rite, but that it is not going to benefit the Church.