To: Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; HossB86; Iscool; ...
2 posted on
06/04/2015 6:29:30 AM PDT by
RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7
Here come the keyword hijinks!
3 posted on
06/04/2015 6:32:11 AM PDT by
Alex Murphy
("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
To: RnMomof7
Getting the popecorn out.
17 posted on
06/04/2015 10:29:47 AM PDT by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: RnMomof7
....lacking Biblical evidence for their traditions, the ancient sources simply place the teachings on the lips of Jesus, Mary and John, or invent the facts necessary to support a belief or practice in which they are already engaging.
- Richard of St. Laurence already believed that Mary is the mediator of all graces, and therefore felt authorized to put the doctrine on Jesus lips.
- Ambrose already believed that Mary, was worthy of being first to witness the resurrection, and therefore simply invented the fact that she was.
- S. Ephrem already believed that Mary was worthy of seeing Jesus transfigured, and therefore simply invented Marys eye-witness to it.
- Peter Chrysologus already believed Mary was present at the Resurrection, and therefore simply assumed that she must have been present in the person of Mary Magdalene.
In every case, the belief came first, and the evidence followed. The pattern for Rome is this: we already know this to be true, so there is no error in creating evidence to support it. This is why I call Tradition the historical revisionism that it clearly is.....I must acknowledge that there is no explicit verse that directly settles [the question of Mary's supposed "Immaculate Conception"]. At the same time, I dont think that an explicit verse is necessary to prove that something is scriptural. I think that if a doctrine is implied in Scripture or logically follows from what we find in Scripture, and if there is nothing in Scripture that directly refutes it, then that belief can be considered scriptural.
-- from the thread In Defense of the Immaculate Conception: Part 2
18 posted on
06/04/2015 10:31:01 AM PDT by
Alex Murphy
("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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