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To: metmom
When Catholics are challenged to support sacred tradition, all we get is

Horsefeathers. I've lost count of the times I've directly supported Catholic doctrine HERE by appealing to Scripture, only to be told solemnly "that's not what those verses mean" ... by people whose own denominations' creedal statements deny the authority of anybody to authoritatively tell a Christian what the Bible does and doesn't mean.

29 posted on 06/04/2015 12:45:29 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion
I understand most of what you wrote, except this:

...creedal statements deny the authority of anybody to authoritatively tell a Christian what the Bible does and doesn't mean.

Would you please elaborate?

I believe anyone can interpret scripture accurately - they must be aided by scripture itself and the indwelling Holy Spirit. A desire to KNOW the true meaning of God's Word is a vital ingredient. A person must be ready and willing to change. God's desire is to change us and conform us to the image of His Son.

God is not the author of confusion. His Word is perfect.

We fail to please God when we erect false gods and worship them.

31 posted on 06/04/2015 1:11:19 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Campion; CynicalBear; Iscool

Can you then provide us with the list of oral traditions that the Church has claimed it has handed down from the apostles?

Like the ones that the church claims Paul was referring to in his epistles?


36 posted on 06/04/2015 5:51:11 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Campion; metmom
Horsefeathers. I've lost count of the times I've directly supported Catholic doctrine HERE by appealing to Scripture, only to be told solemnly "that's not what those verses mean" ... by people whose own denominations' creedal statements deny the authority of anybody to authoritatively tell a Christian what the Bible does and doesn't mean.

Far more often than not we do NOT say 'that's not what those verses mean'...Usually what we say is, 'that's not what those verses say'...You guys constantly change the words of scripture to fit your theology...

41 posted on 06/04/2015 6:32:20 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Campion
... by people whose own denominations' creedal statements deny the authority of anybody to authoritatively tell a Christian what the Bible does and doesn't mean.

appeal to authority
 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

42 posted on 06/04/2015 7:27:26 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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