"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours." Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)
Therefore, if anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema. Vatican 1, Ses. 4, Cp. 1
1. You like to point out words and twists of words. I've seen you do it over and over again.
Where do you see my post say, "Catholics are not Christians" - as you declare? Are you guilty of misquoting me? Who's worming words here, sir?
Now, you may rightly quote this:
I have no problem saying that I do not believe most Roman Catholics are headed for glory. THAT is exactly why I am active in these threads. I have been clear about that at every turn.
You will argue my assertion. And I will say, "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." You will say that refers to me and I, you perhaps.
"...because I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him until that day."
Here's something else you may quote:
I am not opposed to Catholics. I am opposed to Catholicism. I am not anti-Catholic. I am anti-Catholicism.
I KNOW the harm that the institution does and I oppose it.
2. Still, I made an attempt at discussing the challenge. Why don't you stick to the topic instead of attacking the messenger(s)? Is it so hard to have a civilized debate?
THAT would be "classy".