Mercy and Grace: Are They the Same?

Life Hope and Truth ^ | June 9,2015 | Dave Johnson

[Mark17]

Keep up the good work mom.

[Mark17]

So how does one "refill" their grace tank ??

You forgot Amazing Grace by John Newton. 😆 As an ex catholic myself, I would say, they might tell you they refill their grace tank, by good works, church membership, receiving the sacraments, praying to Mary and the holy saints, and a host (no pun intended) of other good works. I don't buy it, of course, but those could be some of the answers you might get.

[shove_it]

All righty then; God’s Law isn’t needed any longer. Let’s all adopt the “GAY” lifestyle that’s so trendy these days. Not only is it condoned by some so-called “Christian” cults but it’s happily celebrated when they ordain practicing homosexuals. That’s the ticket to glory. It’ll only take a couple generations for there to be not a single Christian left on Earth. And that’s just one example of the Christian morality that is being politically corrected out of practice in America today.

[Elsie]

I do not like to hear people say that our sins are pardoned.

Gosh; that's too bad.

What are your feelings when reading the Bible that says that??

 

Micah 7:18
You forgive sin and pardon the rebellion of those who remain among your people.

Psalm 103:3
Who pardons all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases...

Psalm 25:11
For thy name's sake, O LORD, pardon mine iniquity; for it is great.

 

 

[Elsie]

Lot's choice of where he and his family lived cost him a BUNCH!

From the story; it seems evident to me that though he was called a 'righteous man'*; his values didn't filter down to his wife and children.

I hope your closeness to Mormonism will not have too much of a negative effect on you.

(I do see a bit of pushback in your tagline ;^)

* 2 Peter 2:7-8

[Elsie]

Let’s all adopt the “GAY” lifestyle that’s so trendy these days.

I was going to comment on your screen name; but decided not to be quite as tacky as I can get at times.

Instead...

 

Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Health Risks of gay sex.

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[shove_it]

I try to go by ...

Obey the Law but when I don’t, pray for forgiveness, cling to the Gospel and try to do better.

[shove_it]

I’m with you, Elsie. Please click on my screen name for an explanation of why I chose it.

[metmom]

We don't need to refill our grace ourselves.

God LAVISHES it on us.

Ephesians 1:3-10 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

Romans 5:1-2 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

John 1:14-17 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’”) For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON. on this planet is currently operating under a state of grace. If they weren't, they'd be instantly in the fires of hell, burning for what they deserve. Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. It's not only the saved who are experiencing grace, but it is the saved who are aware that they are operating under and in it.

[metmom]

We are not under the law but under grace.

The purpose of the Law is to lead us to Christ, to show us God’s standard and that we CANNOT meet it, to push us, or drive us, to Christ.

The law was never meant to save anyone.

[JAKraig]

Elsie et al,

Yes our sins are forgiven.

When the Governor of a state pardons a criminal he doesn’t serve his punishment for him. In the context of the scriptures most of the time, especially in the New Testament that is exactly what “pardon” means. It costs a governor nothing to pardon a criminal, it costs The Savior of The World the pain of death and horrible punishment prior to His death.

I just want to point out the difference, anyone can and should forgive another of sin to him but only Christ can Pardon a sin against God. God’s law will not be disobeyed without consequence, the punishment will be given either to you or to Christ. Christ has already suffered the punishment, His Grace is sufficient to pardon all who truly seek it. Truly seeking Grace is more than wishing for it or even just praying for it. You must repent, truly and then stop doing what ever it is that is causing the problem and then, only then ask to be forgiven for it and have Grace applied so that you can stand blameless before God.

[Elsie]

Purty good explainin’!