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To: nomad

Many believe the rapture is described in 1 Thessalonians 4:13–18

http://www.gotquestions.org/rapture-of-the-church.html


39 posted on 06/09/2015 4:24:16 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

thanks for the link, but the very passage he uses to prove the rapture actually disproves it.

“But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. 14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. 15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord,4 that lwe who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. (HERE IS THE PROOF THERE IS NO RAPTURE) And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.” \9 THIS IS WHEN THE DEAD IN CHRIST WILL RISE UP THEN THOSE WHO ARE LEFT. THIS IS THE LAST TRUMPET, AM I CORRECT


61 posted on 06/09/2015 4:47:26 PM PDT by stockpirate (A corrupt government is the real enemy of the people.)
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To: smokingfrog
But a timeline, please?

I saw no mention that this will happen before any time of tribulations. It seems to imply, by the statements themselves and known timeline, that this will be at the end of the world, judgement day.

So people will just shrug it all off as a figment of their imaginations and go on with the years of tribulation?

They`ll knowingly accept the mark of the beast even though they just witnessed the supernatural event of all events? Christ, the resurrected savior himself, come down from heaven, raise the dead, then with angels singing praises and blowing horns, ascend into heaven with all the saved?

And the left behind people will not know, if they want any hope in hell, no pun intended, of being forgiven and having a second chance, they`d better rally in god`s named and stomp this Illuminati creep into a bloody mud puddle?

I know the sheeple are S-T-U-P-I-D but REALLY? COME ON, MAN!

67 posted on 06/09/2015 4:57:16 PM PDT by nomad
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