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To: stockpirate

The verses adduced to support the notion of a “rapture” describe the experience of Christians alive on the day of the general resurrection also known as the Last Day or Judgement Day. This was the uniform view of Christians East and West including all of the protestant confessions that arose during the Reformation.

The notion of a “rapture” as an event preceding the tribulation prophesied in the Apocalypse of St. John (a.k.a. Revelations) is a 19th century innovation, and sentimental heresy. The glory of the Church in the Last Days will be as the glory of the Church in its beginning: martyrdom for Christ’s sake.

I rather think the Greek Fathers who read the Gospels and the writings of the Apostles in the original language, in the framework of the same culture in which Our Lord’s earthly ministry took place, including many who suffered persecution for Christ’s sake, have dibs on getting the meaning right when compared with 19th century readers in the comfort of American religious toleration, mostly approaching the text in translation. To a man, they read the text on this matter as I described it in my first sentence.


69 posted on 06/09/2015 4:58:46 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: The_Reader_David
I'm sorry but you are spreading a falsehood. The discussions of the Rapture date to the earliest Church Histories, not to the nineteenth century. Here is a partial list of sources:

Epistle of Barnabus 100AD
Against Heresies Irenaeus 2nd Century
Dialogue With Trypho - Justin Martyr
Ephraem The Syrian (373 AD)
The Approaching Deliverance of the Church - Peter Jurieu 687

There is actually a long list of dialogues and discussion on the Rapture of The Church. Try to be current when you deride a thing displayed in the Scriptures.

126 posted on 06/09/2015 6:51:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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