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Baptism was given to take away the sin inherited from Adam (original sin) and any sins we personally committed before baptism—sins we personally commit are called actual sins, because they come from our own acts. Thus on the day of Pentecost, Peter told the crowds, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38), and when Paul was baptized he was told, "And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name" (Acts 22:16). And so Peter later wrote, "Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. 3:21).

For sins committed after baptism, a different sacrament is needed. It has been called penance, confession, and reconciliation, each word emphasizing one of its.aspects. During his life, Christ forgave sins, as in the case of the woman caught in adultery (John 8:1–11) and the woman who anointed his feet (Luke 7:48). He exercised this power in his human capacity as the Messiah or Son of man, telling us, "the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins" (Matt. 9:6), which is why the Gospel writer himself explains that God "had given such authority to men" (Matt. 9:8).

Since he would not always be with the Church visibly, Christ gave this power to other men so the Church, which is the continuation of his presence throughout time (Matt. 28:20), would be able to offer forgiveness to future generations. He gave his power to the apostles, and it was a power that could be passed on to their successors and agents, since the apostles wouldn’t always be on earth either, but people would still be sinning.

1 posted on 06/12/2015 6:18:39 AM PDT by ADSUM
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2 posted on 06/12/2015 6:39:40 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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“Since he would not always be with the Church visibly, Christ gave this power to other men so the Church, which is the continuation of his presence throughout time (Matt. 28:20), would be able to offer forgiveness to future generations. He gave his power to the apostles, and it was a power that could be passed on to their successors and agents, since the apostles wouldn’t always be on earth either, but people would still be sinning.”

The letter to the Hebrews makes it CLEAR that any earthly priesthood is FINIS. Not needed since the Priest Forever entered into heaven itself and now sits FOREVER interceding. Rome had no business rebuilding what God tore down and replaced (the Levitical priesthood, not the pretend one Rome fashioned).


6 posted on 06/12/2015 7:37:34 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: ADSUM
He exercised this power in his human capacity as the Messiah or Son of man, telling us, "the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins" (Matt. 9:6), which is why the Gospel writer himself explains that God "had given such authority to men" (Matt. 9:8).

Again....context is everything in understanding the Word.

In this passage we see it is Jesus who forgives the sin....not the disciples.

From Matthew 9:1-8 (NASB)

1Getting into a boat, Jesus crossed over the sea and came to His own city.

2And they brought to Him a paralytic lying on a bed. Seeing their faith, Jesus said to the paralytic, “Take courage, son; your sins are forgiven.”

3And some of the scribes said to themselves, “This fellow blasphemes.”

4And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, “Why are you thinking evil in your hearts?

5“Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up, and walk’?

6“But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—then He said to the paralytic, “Get up, pick up your bed and go home.”

7And he got up and went home.

8But when the crowds saw this, they were awestruck, and glorified God, who had given such authority to men.

8 posted on 06/12/2015 7:54:37 AM PDT by ealgeone
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All pardon for sins ultimately comes from Christ’s finished work on Calvary, but how is this pardon received by individuals? Did Christ leave us any means within the Church to take away sin? The Bible says he gave us two means.

Actually He gave one means of forgiveness of all sins...

Repent and believe in Him.

Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord (Acts 3:19);

Baptism in itself does not save you. If you do not believe in Christ and you're baptized you're just a wet sinner.

Hear the Word, be convicted by the Word, believe in Him which includes repentance and receive the Holy Spirit by whom you are sealed, then baptism, then follow Him and His commandments and produce fruit for the Kingdom.

9 posted on 06/12/2015 7:59:32 AM PDT by ealgeone
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1 Peter 3:21
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:


Obviously Peter was not saying that a person has to be Baptized to be saved but that it would save us.

Belief in Jesus is the end result regardless of how we get there.


17 posted on 06/12/2015 9:54:27 AM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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For sins committed after baptism, a different sacrament is needed. It has been called penance, confession, and ,reconciliation...

One would hope people would see the folly in this. Christ died for all sins and we are reconciled to Him when we accepted Him. We belong to God. We don't do things to earn "good behavior" nor are we reconciled over and over to Him. He knows what we are when He saved us and He is at work in us to mold us into what we are becoming.

32 posted on 06/12/2015 1:13:19 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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All pardon for sins ultimately comes from Christ’s finished work on Calvary, but how is this pardon received by individuals?

1 John 1:7-9 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Just tell God. He'll take care of the rest.

42 posted on 06/12/2015 4:02:16 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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God forgives our sins as noted in the Words of Absolution said by the priest after the penitent confesses and says the Act of Contrition.

Catechism of the Catholic Church

 

1449 The formula of absolution used in the Latin Church expresses the essential elements of this sacrament: the Father of mercies is the source of all forgiveness. He effects the reconciliation of sinners through the Passover of his Son and the gift of his Spirit, through the prayer and ministry of the Church:

 

God, the Father of mercies,
through the death and the resurrection of his Son
has reconciled the world to himself
and sent the Holy Spirit among us
for the forgiveness of sins;
through the ministry of the Church
may God give you pardon and peace,
and I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

 


47 posted on 06/12/2015 4:07:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Cyprian writes that the forgiveness of sins can take place only "through the priests." Ambrose says "this right is given to priests only." Pope Leo I says absolution can be obtained only through the prayers of the priests.

Apostates of the highest order...

Is the Catholic who confesses his sins to a priest any better off than the non-Catholic who confesses directly to God? Yes. First, he seeks forgiveness the way Christ intended. Second, by confessing to a priest, the Catholic learns a lesson in humility, which is avoided when one confesses only through private prayer. Third, the Catholic receives sacramental graces the non-Catholic doesn’t get; through the sacrament of penance sins are forgiven and graces are obtained. Fourth, the Catholic is assured that his sins are forgiven; he does not have to rely on a subjective "feeling." Lastly, the Catholic can also obtain sound advice on avoiding sin in the future.

This is sick...

So while you Catholics claim that you can go directly to God in prayer, you are taught not to...WOW!!!

49 posted on 06/12/2015 4:12:20 PM PDT by Iscool
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Baptism was given to take away the sin inherited from Adam (original sin) ...

Oh??


 
 

Matthew 3:13-14     Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to the Jordan, unto John, to be baptized by him.

14 But John stayed him, saying: I ought to be baptized by thee, and comest thou to me?



Why; in ALL of His ministry; do we find no instance of Jesus ever baptizing anyone?

134 posted on 06/13/2015 5:42:04 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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