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To: JPII Be Not Afraid
John 10:28-31

And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

I and my Father are one.

Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

So, aren't you also 'no man', so that once Justified 'no man' including you, can pluck you from God's hand? I think 'no man is very very very very inclusive, even of you. Justification is different from sanctification. A saved sinner is likely to have sins unconfessed when they die. It would be a shame if you were justified by His blood and it was enough to cleanse you from all unrighteousness. How many of your sins were in the future when Jesus was on the Cross?

109 posted on 06/12/2015 9:28:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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It would be a shame if you were justified by His blood and it was enough to cleanse you from all unrighteousness ... and you went through life believing that you had to keep getting justified, especially if you were nicolaitanized to believe a man in catholic garb was vital to your regainging justification. Wouldn’t that qualify as ‘crucifying again and again The Lord Jesus’?


112 posted on 06/12/2015 9:32:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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No one is arguing Jesus is our justification. “No man” can determine your salvation but yourself. That is why Jesus says repent and be baptized. Baptism erases all sin on your soul. Because we are human we sin and need forgiveness for sins after baptism, that is when we use the sacrament of confession. Through the sacraments we gain sactfiying grace that help us live as He wants us to and prepares our soul for heaven.


113 posted on 06/12/2015 9:50:11 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
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