Pope Francis Goes Off the Rails

Politico Magazine ^ | June 17, 2015 | Rich Lowry, editor, The National Review

[xzins]

I’ve seen that a ‘draft’ was leaked. Does anyone know if the final, official version has been published?

[Ann Archy]

Sister Earth??? OMG......and air conditioning is BAD? He will NOT drive me from my Church and the Holy Eucharist.

[Cvengr]

The world would be so much cleaner if we all rode horses in the morning commute on muddy dirt roads to protect their hooves. /s

[delchiante]

The first reformers had no problem calling Rome and the papacy the ‘seat of antichrist’ or the pope ‘antichrist’.

500 years later, the world runs on a Roman calendar named after a Pope!
That would be funny if it wasnt so profoundly prophetic.

An ‘antichrist calendar’ if we accept the premise of the first reformers. And after study, I have no problem with their premise.

Rome and the popes are exactly who they are supposed to be..exactly what the scriptures like Daniel 7 says they are.

The question- is the Pope The ultimate antichrist (which with study one can see ‘anti’ could mean opposed to OR instead of)or does he simply represent him?

I couldn’t tell that there was ‘another Jesus’ that the Pope worshipped until I came out of the world system and tested what Rome teaches about my Savior. It helped to reject Rome as an authority on timekeeping too.

And I suspect most would be blind to it.
Also prophetic.

[Senator_Blutarski]

The Pope is now on his own. Advocating factually unsupported progressive scientific claims in the Church is a step too far. This Pope seems way too comfortable with the forcibly enacted dictates of the socialists.

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

I don’t if Pope Francis was ever on the rails to begin with.

[TalBlack]

The Catholic Church is one of the pillars of Western civilization, and it has brought comfort and meaning to the lives of countless millions of people down through the millennia.

And it sure as heck didn’t do it by “conserving” the gifts of God to the point of stupidity.

[CynicalBear]

>>when exactly did Christ use the word “bible”?<<

Here is at least one time.

Revelation 3:5 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book (biblos) of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

biblos is actually used 34 times in the New Testament.

[Jeff Chandler]

“Book of Life” does not refer to the canon of Holy Scripture assembled by the Catholic Church which Christians refer to as “The Bible.”

[CynicalBear]

Nice try. Here's your question again.

>>when exactly did Christ use the word “bible”?<<

I answered that question. NOW, how about you answer the question put to you by Lurker? Or were you simply crying "hey, look, squirl!"?

[terycarl]

Christ wasn't talking about the RCC. If Christ runs the RCC like Catholics say He does, what does that say about Christ?

Of course He was talking about the RCC, there were no other Christians around for 16 centuries

Christ doesn't run the church, He appointed humans to handle the day to day situations, pay the bills, build buildings etc. He does, however watch over her and protects her and her leaders from doctrinal error. Since He appointed mere mortals, He realizes that there will be some rough moments.....nevertheless, He promised to be with her until the end of time...

[terycarl]

Your church is killing itself. And when exactly did Christ use the word “pope”?

No, the church is not killing itself, I'm not certain how this current situation will play out and I haven't had the opportunity to read the encyclical yet....but the church will be just fine, thank you...

The word pope merely means papa or father....he is actually the bishop of Rome....probably started as a title of affection who knows when.....I've never researched it but I'll bet that its history is documented somewhere.

[terycarl]

Christ wasn't talking about the RCC. If Christ runs the RCC like Catholics say He does, what does that say about Christ?

Of course He was talking about the RCC, there were no other Christians around for 16 centuries

Christ doesn't run the church, He appointed humans to handle the day to day situations, pay the bills, build buildings etc. He does, however watch over her and protects her and her leaders from doctrinal error. Since He appointed mere mortals, He realizes that there will be some rough moments.....nevertheless, He promised to be with her until the end of time...

[StormPrepper]

Of course He was talking about the RCC, there were no other Christians around for 16 centuries

2 Thess 2
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

2 Peter 2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Gal 1
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Amos 8
11 ¶Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.

The majority of the New Testament is dedicated to trying to stave off the apostasy that gripped the Church after Christ ascended.

However, Christ Himself foretold that the Church would fall away. Amos prophesied that after the death of Jesus the word of God wouldn't be found on the earth.

Paul said that the Church at Galatia had turned to another gospel. Paul also said that all the Church in Asia had turned away from him. Meaning they had apostasied.
2 Tim 1
15 This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.

The actual Church itself was lost. Not by God's actions but by the actions of the people. The New Testament tells that this would happen and did happen. Simply looking back at the events of human history for the last 2000 years says this is true.

The Rock that Jesus refers to in Matt 16 is not the Church, but the testimony that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, is the rock. And also, I read into it that it's the revealing of this fact by Heavenly Father by the Holy Ghost. The devil and his angels can not beat that. They can't prevail against that fact.

Daniel 2
44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Notice that Daniel prophesies that God will create His kingdom that won't be destroyed or left to other people. Why would He have to say this if it weren't possible for God's kingdom to be destroyed in the first place?

But Daniel says after the great kingdoms have passed, Rome, Greece, and Babylon, then will the kingdom of God be established.

According to Catholics the kingdom of God on the earth has never been destroyed. Amos and Daniel both say that is not true. Daniel says specifically that it will be restored to the earth.

There are only three possibilities for the true Church of Christ;
1. The Roman Catholic Church. - The Church was never lost.
2. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - The Church was lost because of the great apostasy and was restored as prophesied.
3. The Jews. - The Messiah never came.

16 centuries of being the only 'Christians' because the RCC would have tortured or burned to death anyone that dissented. That's not an attribute of Christ's true Church.