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The Gospel for Roman Catholics
Southern Baptist Midwestern Seminary For The Church ^ | June 14, 2015 | A.D. Robles

Posted on 07/01/2015 7:13:05 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: rwa265

Well of course not! I’m curious, where in the post proclaiming the Gospel Good News would you derive that question?


1,121 posted on 07/09/2015 7:54:15 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Elsie
You're a chicken and I'm a chicken hawk.

Watch out; for those words have OTHER meanings!

I believe you are outstanding in your field, cornfield that is, and I always thought you were a Foghorn Leghorn kind of guy, so you should understand.

There once was a chicken named Foghorn
Who was also known as Leghorn
Old Foghorn done had his fill
As the chickenhawk bit him till
The hawk wished he'd never been born.

1,122 posted on 07/09/2015 9:25:30 AM PDT by Mark17 (Thy goodness faileth never. Good shepherd may I sing thy praise, within thy house forever. Amen)
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To: af_vet_1981
As such, it is no surprise to me Protestantism has discarded the Authorized Version (KJV) of the scriptures.

And you Catholics still have nothing newer than the Douay Rheims; Right?

1,123 posted on 07/09/2015 11:02:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
As such, it is no surprise to me Protestantism has discarded the Authorized Version (KJV) of the scriptures.

And you Catholics still have nothing newer than the Douay Rheims; Right?

1,124 posted on 07/09/2015 11:05:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
As such, it is no surprise to me Protestantism has discarded the Authorized Version (KJV) of the scriptures.

And you DO know what 'authorized' means; Right?


http://www.kjvbibles.com/kjpreface.htm

1,125 posted on 07/09/2015 11:06:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
but never had unity as to which versions and translations of such scriptures, let alone agreement on doctrines, among itself and its offspring.

And all the councils and synods and Magisterium enclaves had nothing but unanimity/consensus in each and all of their decisions; right?

1,126 posted on 07/09/2015 11:09:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17

That was last year.

This year it’s soybeans.


1,127 posted on 07/09/2015 11:10:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Do whatever the church tells you.


You know, Elsie, not even Douay Rheimes has that translation.

Peace,
Rich


1,128 posted on 07/09/2015 2:02:20 PM PDT by rwa265 (Do whatever He tells you, just do it.)
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To: Elsie

And you Catholics still have nothing newer than the Douay Rheims; Right?


Actually, the current version of the Bible is the New American Bible, Revised Edition. This is after issuing the New American Bible in 1970, the second edition in 1986, and the third edition in 1991. And for the record, none of them say “She shall strike at your head.”


1,129 posted on 07/09/2015 2:29:03 PM PDT by rwa265 (Do whatever He tells you, just do it.)
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To: MHGinTN

Well of course not! I’m curious, where in the post proclaiming the Gospel Good News would you derive that question?


After I mentioned the great commandment and sinning against the first commandment, you wrote that you are really sorry if I feel I am sinning against the law.

Do not the commandments make up the law, or are you referring to some other law apart from the commandments?


1,130 posted on 07/09/2015 2:36:15 PM PDT by rwa265 (Do whatever He tells you, just do it.)
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To: rwa265
When asked to say which is the greatest commandment, Jesus replied:

Matthew 22: 37And He said to him, "'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' 38"This is the great and foremost commandment. 39"The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'

Please note that Jesus spoke these words to Jews, before He had instituted the new covenant seal with His blood. Obeying the commandments does not get one Born from Above. The broken and contrite spirit in repentence comes to, and Believing on the One God sent to be Savior and Lord causes the 'born from above' phenomenon. THEN, with His Life placed in you by The Holy Spirit of Promise, you lvae God the Father and this leads to learning how and where and when and by what spirit, you love your neighbor as yourself. This learning process is a transformation process of being 'raised up in the Way that we should go' by the Power of the adopting Spirit of the Family.

1,131 posted on 07/09/2015 2:50:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

When asked to say which is the greatest commandment, Jesus replied:

Matthew 22: 37And He said to him, “’YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’ 38”This is the great and foremost commandment. 39”The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’


If we do not observe this commandment, if we do not love God, or do not love our neighbor, do we sin?


1,132 posted on 07/09/2015 3:16:54 PM PDT by rwa265 (Do whatever He tells you, just do it.)
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To: rwa265
odd way to turn upside down what I offered, but the answer is, we love The Lord Our God because We are in His family. We learn to love our neighbor as our selves. Romans 8 says:

1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.

Once born from above you are no longer living according to the laws of sin and death. Do you fail to be the perfect child of His family? Of course, we still have the Adamic inheritance. But we learn to walk not after that flesh, by allowing His life in us to teach us the Way that we should go.

1,133 posted on 07/09/2015 3:43:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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And just so we don't get it tangled up, Paul went on to explain:

Roman 8:9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 1And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

12 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live


1,134 posted on 07/09/2015 3:49:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

Do you fail to be the perfect child of His family?


When I fail to be the perfect child of His family, is that a sin?


1,135 posted on 07/09/2015 4:20:16 PM PDT by rwa265 (Do whatever He tells you, just do it.)
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To: rwa265
Yes and no. The law of sin and death is covered by the blood of Christ on your behalf. It no longer holds you in its chains.

Sin is falling short of the righteousness of God. While you and I are still in this body, since it is under the law of sin and death, we still sin. But we have an advocate, Jesus Christ The Righteous who intercedes for us constantly as we confess our falling short.

By this you may know that God dwells in you, that you are shamefully aware of your sinful nature and mortified by it, so you bring it to your Loving Lord to be cleansed of it every time the Holy Spirit reveals to you a falling short.

Your spirit is alive now, by the power of God's spark of Life in you, if you are in Christ. ONLY God can put His Life in you, and only into the cleansed spirit by the Blood of His Son will He then place His righteousness in you.

The presence of that Righteousness is most precious because it is the shekinah which reveals the falling short, that we may bring it to Him for His dealing with it. We are already in His family.

When we sin, we do not suddenly become unborn from His family. That is the astonishing thing about this New Covenant in Christ's blood. It cleanses us from all unrighteousness AND allows God, not a priest, to put His life in us. He loves us so much that He wants us to have Hid life in our spirits, not for our glory but because it glorifies His Son who died for us and rose again to bring God Life into us.

1,136 posted on 07/09/2015 4:31:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

By this you may know that God dwells in you, that you are shamefully aware of your sinful nature and mortified by it, so you bring it to your Loving Lord to be cleansed of it every time the Holy Spirit reveals to you a falling short.


Sometimes it takes me awhile, but I think I understand what you are saying. I was focusing too much on Romans 7 and not enough on the beginning of Romans 8.

If we are in God and covered by the blood of Christ, we are mortified by our sin and almost immediately bring it to our Lord, saying we are sorry and asking His forgiveness. And our loving Lord says, come to me, and I will give you rest, and he cleanses us.

Or something like that.

Peace,
Rich


1,137 posted on 07/09/2015 4:56:12 PM PDT by rwa265 (Do whatever He tells you, just do it.)
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To: rwa265; MHGinTN
Are you saying that one can be saved without loving God?

Well, yeah, that would be the case.

The requirement to be saved is to believe. We believe and confess. We come to love God because He saved us. He doesn't save us because we love Him. And He doesn't require us to love Him before He saves us.

1,138 posted on 07/09/2015 6:21:07 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: rwa265; MHGinTN
When I fail to be the perfect child of His family, is that a sin?

Yes.

Welcome to the human race.

1,139 posted on 07/09/2015 6:26:25 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: rwa265; MHGinTN
When I fail to be the perfect child of His family, is that a sin?

Yes.

Welcome to the human race.

1,140 posted on 07/09/2015 6:26:26 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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