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To: ansel12

Without the Catholic input there would be no Declaration of Independence. It’s obvious who Jefferson got his ideas of freedom from. Now take your anti-Catholicism to a liberal board where it’ll be appreciated. Most on FR have had enough of your nonsense.


8 posted on 07/03/2015 8:48:03 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

LOL, Catholics could never have founded a United States.

The left counts on Catholic immigration, to erase America.


10 posted on 07/03/2015 8:50:28 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: NKP_Vet

“It’s obvious who Jefferson got his ideas of freedom from.”

There are three huge problems with that.
1) In Europe Catholicism never brought individual freedom to the nations it ruled via Catholic Monarchs. Nearly all Protestant rule over there was just as bad. But freedom of thought certainly never followed Catholicism.

2) Do you have the slightest evidence that Jefferson used any Catholic thought to form his opinions? He wrote widely on his readings and influences, where is the record. It is not simply “obvious”.

3) In a general sense, Catholicism and its effect on Europe was generally viewed as an anathema to the founders. This feeling lasted well into the 20th century. What evidence do you have that the founders had high regard for Catholic thought?

None of this is to disparage Catholics today who are my Christian bretheren, but its very misleading to act like this nation was founded on Catholic thinking.

And again, this is not anti Catholic. I regard the Catholic Spanish arriving in the Aztec world of Mexico as almost identical to the Allied Armies liberating the Nazi death camps. But the RCC wasn’t the impetus behind the US Constitution.


27 posted on 07/03/2015 9:57:23 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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