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METHODIST OFFICIAL: “I NEVER HAVE ASKED JESUS TO DEFINE MARRIAGE”
First Things ^ | July 4, 2015 | Matthew Schmitz

Posted on 07/05/2015 3:42:45 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

Does an ETF that double shorts the Methodist Church exist? I want in big time.


41 posted on 07/05/2015 4:44:39 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: stanne

eejit also works.


42 posted on 07/05/2015 4:45:31 PM PDT by some tech guy (Stop trying to help, Obama)
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To: Ransomed

You are correct - I have thanked God for the Africans on many occasions over the last 5 years. And for Maxie Dunnam for 20 years. My conference keeps saying “ the Book of Discipline still forbids it”, but it sounds like whisting past the graveyard. There will be a full-court press both ways next year.


43 posted on 07/05/2015 4:48:54 PM PDT by jagusafr
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To: madprof98

They haven’t?


44 posted on 07/05/2015 4:49:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (INTOLERANCE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!!)
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To: some tech guy

eejut. That’s actually better.


45 posted on 07/05/2015 4:50:26 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Ransomed

UMC is traditionally a mostly white denomination.


46 posted on 07/05/2015 4:50:40 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (INTOLERANCE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!!)
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To: NYer

No need to ask Jesus to define marriage. That was done, a long time ago. He just needed to read the book.


47 posted on 07/05/2015 5:03:48 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: NYer

If Medford had read the old and new testaments, he would know what God and Jesus say about marriage. And it is not what he has decided it should be.


48 posted on 07/05/2015 5:08:58 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer

Dear Lord..


49 posted on 07/05/2015 5:13:58 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: NYer

And I heard that very thing coming out of my FUMC pulpit this very morning. We live in a very conservative area. A lot of the congregation are ticked. He told us that we had to abide by the ‘law of the land’. If not, quit our jobs. Then said ‘tbey’ should have ‘liberty’ and we shouldn’t block them.

What about OUR liberty????????

I was pissed beyond belief when I left this morning.

The early service I attended is done by an asst. He was more fire and brimstone about it (which is why his services are FULL and the 11:00 isn’t).


50 posted on 07/05/2015 5:21:05 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: NYer

Hhmmm...Did Jesus return and I missed it? How else would he ask him?


51 posted on 07/05/2015 5:21:58 PM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: NYer

The Methodists never asked Jesus to define anything, they relied on the Wesley brothers to guide them.....how’s it working out?????


52 posted on 07/05/2015 5:23:12 PM PDT by terycarl (, COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: NYer
Christ looked at it as Settled Law (as the RATS like to say) in the Old Testament
53 posted on 07/05/2015 5:24:36 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: NYer

Do Protestant sects anathemize? If so, Meffords is a good candidate.

CC


54 posted on 07/05/2015 5:33:18 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof)
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To: NYer

He didn’t have to wait to be asked, it’s already defined multiple places in HIS WORD. Maybe the Rev should pick it up and read a little more thoroughly like the Bereans.


55 posted on 07/05/2015 5:34:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Darksheare

Or Romans: 1?

CC


56 posted on 07/05/2015 5:35:19 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof)
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To: NYer

Of course one wouldn’t “ask Jesus” to define marriage, one can look up His answer in the Scriptures and find that He defined it in terms of biology. “Male and female He created them. For that reason a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife.”


57 posted on 07/05/2015 5:49:42 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: NYer

Anybody who has one of these blasted rainbow avatars has already told you plenty about themselves.


58 posted on 07/05/2015 5:57:05 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: madprof98

I haven’t heard of many Methodists leaving Methodism over its liberalism.


59 posted on 07/05/2015 6:06:38 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Bryanw92

The Higher-ups in the UMC have been trying for years, but the representation from the local congregations keep voting them down. If the UMC ever votes for homosexual marriage, it as a denomination will go like the Episcopals and UMC members will vote with their feet. Since the mid 1970s, the higher ups in the UMC have been much more liberal than the local congregations.


60 posted on 07/05/2015 6:15:23 PM PDT by fini
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