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To: maryz
So why or how is the bread like His Body?

The Passover was a remembrance of the Jews being sustained in the desert by manna ....

The Matzo ..the unleavened bread of the passover represented the manna in the desert .. He was explaining the passover memorial, was also a prefigurement of the cross.. ..He took the bread and broke it... just as His body would be broken ...

247 posted on 07/11/2015 3:56:59 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; maryz; MHGinTN; Mark17
(My comments on the import of Post 247 of this thread):

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The Passover was a remembrance of the Jews being sustained in the desert by manna ....

No, the Passover is the memorial of God's command to the Hebrew slaves in Egypt to paint a sacrificial lamb's blood on the side and top door posts (prescient of Christ's blood and sacrifice on the cross) of their houses such that when God's Death Angel, about to pass through Egypt and slay the firstborn of every human and animal, He would see the mark and pass over the house with the blood sign, and leave the firstborn ones of that house alive without harm.

God tells us in Exodus 12:12-14 AV:

12 "For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night,
and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both
man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will
execute judgment: I am the LORD.
13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass
over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy
you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial;
and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your
generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

There is an old hymn about this, relating the Passover to the Cross and the believer-disciple's salvation from the Eternal Death by His Shed Blood as the Lamb of God:

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WHEN I SEE THE BLOOD

Christ our Redeemer died on the cross,
Died for the sinner, paid all his due;
Sprinkle your soul with the blood of the of the Lamb,
And I will pass, will pass over you.

. . When I (when I) see the blood (see the blood),
. . When I (when I) see the blood (see the blood),
. . When I (when I) see the blood (see the blood),
. . I will pass, I will pass over you (over you).

Chiefest of sinners, Jesus will save;
All He has promised, that He will do;
Wash in the fountain opened for sin
And I will pass, will pass over you.

Judgment is coming, all will be there,
Each one receiving justly his due;
Hide in the saving sin-cleansing blood,
And I will pass, will pass over you.

O great compassion! O boundless love!
O loving kindness, faithful and true!
Find peace and shelter under the blood,
And I will pass, will pass over you.

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There is nothing about manna here in this paradigm of spiritual life.

The Matzo ..the unleavened bread of the passover represented the manna in the desert ..

I hope you will permit me to respectfully correct your misstatement here.

First, there is no connection or relationship between the unleavened bread matzos) and the "what-is-it" substance (manna). These substances are not even physically alike at all, even though manna is sometimes referred to in Scripture as "bread." Matzoh (Hebrew)--which is adzumos (Greek)--was made from grain flour, but at the moment the Death Angel was to suddenly pass over Egypt, the Hebrew slaves had so little notice and were in such haste to leave Egypt that there was no time for leavening substance to work. The reason that baked cracker-bread is used during the Passover memorial feast days is to remind them of the urgency of their flight out of the Nile Delta when God freed them from 430 years of slavery to the Egyptians, and commanded them never to forget it.

Manna is something quite different than adzumos. Later on, in their wandering in the Sinai area, there was no chance to grow grain to make bread, and they were very hungry. So God caused the manna to fall out of the clouds over them from the sky, like snowflakes, every night except on evening of the Sabbath. As to preserving it:

"And they gathered it every morning, every man according to his eating: and when the sun waxed hot, it melted" (Ex. 16:21 AV).

It wouldn't stand even the heat of the sun, so it could not be baked "bread." And they couldn't even keep it overnight (except for the Sabbath). So you can see that there was no connection between the leavened bread cakes(artos, Greek) nor unleavened bread crackers (adzuma, Greek) with the pasty manna-stuff.

Now, going on, Jesus is not identified figuratively with manna. Follow this passage from John's gospel:

"Jesus answered and said unto them,
'This is the work of The God, that you
continually commit trust unto (He) Whom
That One (God) sent.'"
In response they said to Him,
'What miraculous sign therefore are You Yourself doing
in order that we behold and continually commit trust
to You? What are You working?'
(Note here that Jesus had just yesterday fed them with real bread, miraculously.) 'Our fathers ate the manna in the desert according as it
is standing written, He gave them bread out of Heaven to eat.'
(Note--here see Psalm 78:24-25)
In response Jesus said to them,
'Amen, amen, I am saying to you, Moses has not given to you
the bread (artos) out of Heaven; but on the contrary,
My Father gives to you The Genuine Bread (artos) out of Heaven.
For The Bread (artos) of The God is The One descending out
of Heaven and gives absolute life to the world.'
In response they said to him,
'Lord, give to us this bread all the time!'

OK, what we see here is that the language gives us the clues that literally or figuratively speaking, Jesus is not represented by manna nor by adzumos. And He certainly is not literally artos, but He in this passagepersonally identifies Himself in the figurative-literal sense as the Source Of Life (a title), and as The Genuine Bread (a title). In other passages He as The Word is equated with (another title, "A human's life is not derived from baked bread dough alone, but also by every spoken command of the Savior God Himself) descended from His Throne in The God's Heaven.

That is the figurative-literal "bread" Who sustains spiritual life in His Body by coming to Him for instruction in--feeding on--the Word of God.

He took the bread and broke it... just as His body would be broken

Well, "broken" not in the English-language sense that brittle matzos/adzumos cracker-bread would be snapped, for that would contradict Scripture:

"The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that
the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath
day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought
Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might
be taken away.
Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first,
and of the other which was crucified with him.
But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead
already, they brake not his legs: . . .
For these things were done, that the scripture should be
fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken" (Jn. 19:31-33,36 AV).

But in the sense that soft baked flat bread, like pita bread, is torn to divide it, His body was (by humans) wounded--lacerated, poked, bruised, punctured, sliced, pricked, perforated, ruptured, slapped, ligaments torn--painful in itself; but by the Mighty God subjected to the ultimately agonizing burning as of the white-hot furnace of the flames of the Lake of Fire itself, in which He was our Substitute, which remnant and reminding effect was still seen by Beloved John:

"His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as
snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a
furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. . . " (Rev. 1:13-14 AV).

His body wracked, His eyes and feet as burned in a furnace, pericardium pierced? yes . . . but bones broken, no.

But thanks for the opportunity to explain this to you, with respect.

(My emphases shown by bolding the above text portions)

523 posted on 07/13/2015 8:27:29 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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