POPE FRANCIS AND THE MARKS OF COMMUNISM

Stumbling Block ^ | July 11, 2015 | Stumbling Block

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You use Kaper as your authoritative Catholic source?

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Kaper = Kasper

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.....”This church gets into all sorts of trouble. But survives”...

And it will always survive because it's leadership is so easily and willingly co-operative with whatever "Political" agenda is in play on the world stage, her history reveals this is just the way it operates. Meanwhile the membership stews and frets til the next Pope comes into place...as they watch the current Pope make his rounds in the world....and repeats the same.

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When Jesus forgave the prostitute saying neither do I condemn you he told her to ‘sin no more’...... He didn’t just love her and accept her in her sin.

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What makes you think so? There are many voices that must be heard. This is what Synods are for? No? Or just only for the views you happen to agree with?

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Then only voice that needs to be heard is the Catholic Church’s voice, constant from all time.

The Church is not a democracy.

[Steelfish]

And constant from all time is also this:

“Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

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Nor is there an issue of mortal sin but simply an urgent need to take the message of charity seriously.

Not according to Pope Francis.

Pope Francis: “Our common home is being pillaged, laid waste and harmed with impunity. Cowardice in defending it is a grave sin."

Grave sin = mortal sin. The two words are used interchangeably in Catholic teaching.

Francis supports liberation theology. He honors liberation theologists such as Gustavo Gutiérrez Merino and has written the preface for Cardinal Muller's pro-liberation theology book, "Poor for the Poor: The Mission of the Church". Liberation theology is communism with a Christian veneer.

Did one Wall Street banker go to jail over the Lehman Bros crash of 2003-2004? Was Soros ever prosecuted over his currency manipulations: pain,death, and destruction? Hillary Clinton’s $100,000 overnight win in a cattle futures investment of $`1000? Silicon Valley Masters of the Universe? Saudi Royalty? Dubai emirs while thousands of third world workers get housed in prison-like conditions?

Please explain how advocating for liberation theology/eco-socialism (communism) is an appropriate Christian response to the above complaints?

[BlatherNaut]

Francis certainly is trying to erase the definition of sins and also making a mockery of the Sixth Commandment with his SinNods.

He's made his intentions blindingly clear.

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So do you, like Kasper, pick and choose from the Gospel that which you believe? Are you even a Catholic?

“Who answering, said to them: Have ye not read, that he who made man from the beginning, Made them male and female? And he said: [5] For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they two shall be in one flesh.”

“[6] Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.” Matthew 19

[Steelfish]

If the liberal press can poison folks like you (And, I don’t mean you personally), then there is no hope. Pope Francis speaks of unbridled capitalism, a capitalism that savages and exploits. This is mostly true for Latin America but we all know what occurred in the Lehman Bros crash when thousands of middle class folks lost their homes and families were literally placed on the streets. Why isn’t this kind of exploitative capitalism a grave sin? Child labor in China, India, the Philippines? Haven’t we seen fires gut factories in Bangladesh with hundreds of factory workers killed while making shoes for Nike?

You need to be careful and read between the lines and not drink the MSM kool-aid.

Here’s short BBC account of what he said during the last Mass in Paraguay

“During his previous stops in Bolivia and Ecuador, he spoke out against social injustices in the region.

“Welcome the hungry, the thirsty, the stranger, the naked, the sick, the prisoner, the leper and the disabled,” Pope Francis spoke at the Mass in Asuncion.”

For sure, this is no Joel Osteen speaking here!

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Oh, so now its only your version that is “Catholic”!
Apparently, you alone have the gift of understanding God’s mercy and shall we say you alone know “its limits”?

“Let no man put asunder.” could mean others trying to break the marriage just as what King Herod did.

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“Let no man put asunder.” could mean others trying to break the marriage just as what King Herod did.

Dream on. What are you going to justify next? Polygamy?

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The "kool-aid" drinkers are those who rant about "unbridled capitalism" (a misnomer when applied to the underlying causes of the complaints you have cited) while promoting liberation theology/eco-socialism. Economic systems are generally as moral or as immoral as those who participate in them (with the exception of communism, which is intrinsically evil).

The kool-aid drinkers are those who willfully ignore Pope Francis' and the Vatican's collaboration with socialists, eco-nazis, population controllers and other anti-Church leftists.

For example, Dr. Jeffrey Sachs has received funding from Soros. Jeffrey Sachs’s $200 Billion Dream

And check this out:

Vatican hosts two leading pro-abortion, population control activists at climate conference

And then there is the notorious Dr. Hans Schellnhuber, honored "Laudato Si" presenter, who believes that poor Gaia is overpopulated by 80%. Presumably he counts "the poor" (rather than brilliant atheists such as himself) as the excess baggage.

And how about Naomi Klein and Dr. Margaret Archer? Why are these perverse people being recruited by the Pope to help him carry out his agenda? Only kool-aid drinkers could actually believe that he would deliberately select fellow travelers not in sync with his intentions.

He has now recruited "climate change expert" Governor Moonbeam Brown provide advice to the Vatican. Kool-aid drinkers must surely be swooning.

POPE FRANCIS CALLS ON JERRY BROWN AS CLIMATE CHANGE EXPERT

Before Francis snuggled up to Morales (the hammer and sickle crucifix gifter), Morales was snuggling up to Putin.

Anyone who truly believes that Pope Francis is standing up for the poor by snuggling up to commies ought to lay off the kool-aid.

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Splitting bits and pieces of a major encyclical devoted to man as custody of our natural treasures and beauty and turning it into an Al Gore defense of climate controls is absurd. He speaks of a throwaway culture of consumerism that empties itself of Christ, the very creator of our earthly planet. Can anyone turn a blind eye to the degradations of the rain forests and the oceans? The senseless slaughter of wildlife: ivory trade in elephant tusks? dolphins? or seal cubs for fur and profit? This is not a liberal or conservative issue. It is very much a Catholic issue in the sense that natural reserves are for use by all of God’s inhabitants.

Now the MSM would like to hijack the message as Francis being an avid supporter of climate change caused by normal human activity and this of course is what they do. But for those who read the encyclical carefully we don’t drink the kook-aid as strained through the opinion and news report filters of the NY Times.

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Nobody’s hijacking anything, excerpt for Francis, who is trying to redefine the Catholic religion.

[Steelfish]

You mean “redefining” the Church like fighting the commercial (mis) appropriation of land used by slum dwellers.

Note the reference to “your” land in the link below. And yet we in America are ok with “our’ property rights but stand against the exploitation of the property rights of the poor, and the Pope is anti-capitalist.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-visits-paraguay-slum-gives-mass-to-1-million/

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The senseless slaughter of wildlife: ivory trade in elephant tusks? dolphins? or seal cubs for fur and profit?

Forgive me for considering the sinful slaughter of children in the womb of far greater concern than the fate of dolphins and seals. Where is the encyclical condemning abortion and euthanasia?

The encyclical Laudato si', which makes sweeping claims based on junk science rather than empirical evidence, is an embarrassment to the Church, and these words of St. Augustine seem particularly appropos in describing its unfortunate effect:

"Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of the world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion [quoting 1 Tim 1:7]."