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To: daniel1212
Scripturally speaking, it is not taught that visible candlestick churches are necessarily all saved, as they usually contain tares as well as believers.

The Messiah personally addressed those seven churches in Asia, each as a genuine "church." Similarly, the Apostle Paul personally addressed the church at Corinth. These were bona fide, genuine churches that were part of the whole, the one holy catholic apostolic church, and the scripture testifies to that view, as well as that a genuine church may have its candlestick removed, and spiritual death may come to those Christians who refuse to do the works of the Messiah. Paul testified to the church at Corinth that they are the body of the Messiah.

Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
First Corinthians, Catholic chapter twelve, Protestant verses twenty eight to twenty nine,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

233 posted on 08/01/2015 10:12:34 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Scripturally speaking, it is not taught that visible candlestick churches are necessarily all saved, as they usually contain tares as well as believers.

The Messiah personally addressed those seven churches in Asia, each as a genuine "church." Similarly, the Apostle Paul personally addressed the church at Corinth. These were bona fide, genuine churches

That was never denied, but that this does not equate to all those in these organic candlestick communities being true believers. Sorry if that was not clear enough for you.

the one holy catholic apostolic church,

Not as translating to the church of Rome that you belong to. That is the issue.

that a genuine church may have its candlestick removed

That was not denied but was affirmed.

236 posted on 08/01/2015 8:56:04 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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