“No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have sacraments, one can sing allulia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the name of the Father, and of the son, and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church.”
~ St. Augustine (354-430) Bishop and Doctor of the Church.
Wrong is wrong no matter who says it. Its a good thing my salvation does not depend on your twisted theology. I am most definitely saved, and have not nor ever will be part of the RC church.
~ St. Augustine (354-430) Bishop and Doctor of the Church.
You're saying that a mortally wounded soldier who accepts Christ as Savior and dies just seconds after his profession of faith is not saved??
He has not been baptized, had communion, anything other than he's professed faith in Christ.
Heaven or Hell?
What say you?
And on this Augustine was wrong.
“No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have sacraments, one can sing allulia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the name of the Father, and of the son, and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church.”
Small potatoes, NKP_Vet.
Don't forget this part:
All Human Creatures Are Subject to the PopePopes have more influence that a mere Bishop and Doctor of the Church, right?
Check these out to reinforce your quote that declares that all Christians outside the Catholic Church have no chance for salvation:
"The universal Church of the faithful is one outside of which none is saved." Pope Innocent III, ex cathedra, Fourth Lateran Council (1215 AD)I especially like the part that says "no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic ChurchWe declare, say , define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” -Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam (1302 AD)
“The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, also Jews, heretics, and schismatics can ever be partakers of eternal life, but that they are to go into the eternal fire ‘which was prepared for the devil and his angels’ (Mt. 25:41) unless before death they are joined with Her… No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.” Pope Eugene IV, ex cathedra, Council of Florence, Cantate Domino (1441 AD)
There are thousands of martyrs for Jesus in the Kingdom of God right now, resting at the bosom of Jesus Christ, who would disagree with that statement. Reminds me of the shortest verse in the Bible, "Jesus wept"
More popesquotes [I coined a word, I hope that is not reported for bashing]:
"The holy universal Church teaches that it is not possible to worship God truly except in Her and asserts that all who are outside of Her (The Catholic Church) will not be saved." Pope Saint Gregory the Great (590-604)Well, that pretty much proves it.“By heart we believe and by mouth confess the one Church, not of heretics but the Holy Roman, Catholic, and Apostolic Church outside (The Catholic Church) which we believe that no one is saved.” Pope Innocent III, Eius exemplo, 18 December 1208
"Some say they are not bound by the doctrine which teaches that the Mystical Body of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church are one and the same thing. Some reduce to a meaningless formula the necessity of belonging to the true Church in order to gain eternal salvation. Others finally belittle the reasonable character of the credibility of Christian Faith. These and like errors, it is clear, have crept in among certain of our sons who are deceived by imprudent zeal for souls or by false science.” -Venerable Pope Pius XII, Humani Generis
You win NKP_Vet.
We must all be subject to the Catholic Pope and a member of the Catholic Church to be saved.
But then, there is this...
All of those "pontifications" pretty much write off many Bible passages, of which I will post one:
that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved--Romans 10:9I certainly agree with this phrase from the last popequote: Others finally belittle the reasonable character of the credibility of Christian Faith.
John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
The Apostle Peter: Acts 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
The name of JESUS,a person, not the name of Catholicism, Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, or any other organization.
"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours." — Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)
Therefore, if anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema. — Vatican 1, Ses. 4, Cp. 1