If you think the sixth seal is not until the very end of the tribulation, you’re not reading the Revelation timeline very well. If you think half the world being killed by nukes, famine and hoards of demons flying around stinging and killing people all happens “at the very end of the tribulation” (your words) BEFORE all the trumpets sound and all the vials are poured out and Armageddon happens, you’ve got a real problem with timeline reality my FRiend.
The tribulation IS the day of God’s wrath, but I don’t want to rehash this argument with yet another mid-trib/post-trib type. I wouldn’t have engaged you at all if I’d known that. I thought you were a pre-trib type.
“If you think the sixth seal is not until the very end of the tribulation, you’re not reading the Revelation timeline very well.”
Seeing as the signs are parallel to the signs in Matthew 24, which are specificly, explicitly stated by Jesus Christ himself to be after the tribulation, I think I am on pretty secure footing.
Any other reading requires all those signs to be doubled, so they could occur at two different times. So we’d need two darkenings of the sun and moon, two episodes of signs in the heavens witnessed by the entire world, and of course, most troubling, two second comings of Jesus.
“If you think half the world being killed by nukes, famine and hoards of demons flying around stinging and killing people all happens “at the very end of the tribulation” (your words) BEFORE all the trumpets sound and all the vials are poured out and Armageddon happens, you’ve got a real problem with timeline reality my FRiend.”
I’ve never said those things happen “BEFORE all the trumpets sound and all the vials are poured out and Armageddon happens”. You just have a conception in your mind that the tribulation extends to include all those events, but the tribulation ends when Christ returns, and that happens at the sixth seal, as Revelation 6 attests. Therefore, all the trumpets and bowls/vials happen after the tribulation.
“The tribulation IS the day of God’s wrath...”
No, it isn’t, or God would have called it the “great wrath” instead of the “great tribulation”. Besides, the day of God’s wrath is just that, a day, also known as the “day of the Lord”. It’s an unusual day, in that the sun and moon are darkened, but it’s certainly not a seven-year long period like the great tribulation.
The whole idea that the tribulation is “God’s wrath” is also self-contradictory. Christ is the one who renders God’s wrath on the world, yet pre-tribbers claim he is rapturing believers and preparing the wedding feast during that time, not down on earth dispensing vengeance. You can’t insist the tribulation is God’s wrath if you are also insisting the instrument of God’s wrath is not around on earth to dispense it.