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To: johngrace
Some of the visions of the Virgin Mary have her declaring the 1John4 Requirement. Those are true visions from God. A pure spirit that is evil can never declare it only a true Godly spirit or angel from Christ. Why? Because Christ tells us in the Gospels that Satan is already judged. ...

... And I warn do not do it with out proper pray. You would be playing with fire.

I am constantly amazed at the improper use of Scripture, and lack of understanding with so many Roman Catholics. But, then, they seem to go hand-in-hand. I was fortunate that I was able to learn Scripture at the hands of Greek and Hebrew scholars in a Bible college.

I don't interpret Scripture. I read it and study it. I allow the Holy Spirit to reveal Truth and guide me. Nay, I DEPEND on His Holy Spirit. Because, without it, we cannot know the Truth of God's plan.

Whenever I read such myths and sorcery as are involved with Roman Catholicism, I am reminded to test those spirits, as John spoke. But, Satan surely knew Jesus, and tried to get Him to reveal Himself prematurely. He made promises he could not keep. God is not nocked.

Yet, we see a constant mockery when cultists claim they saw some apparition of mary. They may have seen a vision, and some people may follow their claims, but when tested again Scripture, they usually fail. I laughed when I read about burying some graven idol of what they deem to be Joseph, so they can sell a house. That is only one example of mocking God.

Praying to dead people, and thinking they will get an answer from God do not go together. More often than not, we see answers from another place... and people foolish enough to believe them.

Visions and apparitions can surely occur. But, they will never give credence to the mythology of the Roman Catholic mary, nor the veracity of the RC claims of being the only way to reach God.

John only speaks about denying Christ's existence on Earth. It never said to pray to dead people or believe the errors from Rome. It says to test spirits.

“For Satan himself transforms himself into an ANGEL OF LIGHT. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.” (2 Corinthians 11:14)

37 posted on 08/16/2015 8:04:15 PM PDT by WVKayaker (On Scale of 1 to 5 Palins, How Likely Is Media Assault on Each GOP Candidate?)
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To: WVKayaker
Wrong again.

test the spirits!!!!

These verses are for all in the scriptures

When apparitions are true Spirit they declare the true words of the creeds with the person.

1 John 4

Test the Spirits

4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and bnow is in the world already. 4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

When we don't understand these scriptures your missing out how to really spiritually discern things.

I am praying for you.

40 posted on 08/17/2015 9:11:00 AM PDT by johngrace ( I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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