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ARE THERE REALLY 38,000 DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS? by Damon Whitsell
THE WORD on the Word of Faith ^ | 08/22-15 | Damon Whitsell

Posted on 08/24/2015 11:58:39 AM PDT by damonw

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1 posted on 08/24/2015 11:58:39 AM PDT by damonw
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Several thousand, but not 38,000. The original research which came up with 38,000 didn’t recognize that its source referred to country-specific denominations as separate denominations. One could reasonably assert that the Church of Norway is the same denomination as the Church of Sweden, although they have separate leadership and thereby make denominational decisions separately. One would also presumably say that a mission church of the Southern Baptist Convention of the United States in Nigeria is the same denomination as the Southern Baptist Convention of the United States.


2 posted on 08/24/2015 12:09:22 PM PDT by dangus
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To: damonw

There’s only one Jesus and He is the only way to heaven by grace through faith in Him.

Churches don’t save so denominational labels aren’t really much more than informative.

Denominations are not nearly as big a deal as some make them out to be. There’s often precious little difference in doctrinal positions in many of them, and if there are, they are over issues that are not important to the salvation of one’s soul.

And since there are so many denominations, the exact number is up for grabs depending on the definition of *denominations*, and therefore meaningless.


3 posted on 08/24/2015 12:12:36 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: damonw
Die Heretic!

4 posted on 08/24/2015 12:13:06 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: damonw

This, however, is not at all true:

Svendsen then says “Barrett indicates that what he means by “denomination” is any ecclesial body that retains a “jurisdiction” (i.e., semi-autonomy). As an example, Baptist denominations comprise approximately 321 of the total Protestant figure. In other words, if there are ten Independent Baptist churches in a given city, even though all of them are identical in belief and practice, each one is counted as a separate denomination due to its autonomy in jurisdiction.

If that were true, there would be tens of thousands of Baptists denominations counted, not 321. There are 321 Baptist CONVENTIONS in the world. It’s an exaggeration to count them all as separate denominations, since many have formal relationships among them. But there are scores of separate Baptist denominations with theological distinctions among them.


5 posted on 08/24/2015 12:14:39 PM PDT by dangus
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To: DannyTN

We fully advocate a return to a Christ centered Christianity. And we fully reject the Word of Faith Movement’s entirely new spiritual paradigm shift that has resulted in Christian class-ism and caused countless rifts and chasms among the people of God. And quite frankly, the Movement has turned many people to a neutered and Christ-less Christianity which is a different Gospel, proclaims another Jesus and comes from another Spirit. We seek the conciliation or reconciliation of as many people as possible to the real Jesus and Gospel of the historical Protestant Reformation and mainline Christianity.


6 posted on 08/24/2015 12:14:46 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: damonw

Here’s what I would reasonably use as a test of Christian unity. Unfortunately, it’s impossible to research it to get a simple number.

Suppose the First Lutheran (ELCA) Church of Springfield burnt down. Would congregants agree as to what church to attend together until it was re-built? Would they all go to the First Presbyterian Church of Springfield? If so, the two Churches are the same denomination. Might some also go to the First Presbyterian Church of West Springfield? Still the same denomination. But would some feel they needed to travel to the First Lutheran Church of Shelbyville? Separate denomiation.


7 posted on 08/24/2015 12:19:59 PM PDT by dangus
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To: damonw

Many demoninations keep the people in control of their beliefs, money, and worship style. While not taking away the gospel of Jesus Christ it does keep one man from being head of the church. Jesus Christ is the only true head of a body of believers.


8 posted on 08/24/2015 12:21:43 PM PDT by Cottonpatch
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To: damonw

It’s much simpler than that. It’s the Christian Churches that don’t follow the seven sacraments. That’s what drives the number way up.


9 posted on 08/24/2015 12:21:43 PM PDT by Sea Warrior (Who's the enemy?)
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To: damonw

Reminds me of this joke:

A man was stranded on a deserted Pacific island for years. Finally one day a boat comes sailing into view, and the man frantically waves and draws the skipper’s attention. The boat comes near the island and the sailor gets out and greets the stranded man.

After a while the sailor asks, “What are those three huts you have here?”

“Well, that’s my house there.”

“What’s that next hut?” asks the sailor.

“I built that hut to be my church.”

“What about the other hut?”

“Oh, that’s where I used to go to church.”


10 posted on 08/24/2015 12:22:16 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: knarf

I have heard a lot about the word of faith movement.

What exactly is it and who is involved with it?

Is it the Osteen, Hinn, Joyce Meyers, name it and claim it nonsense?

I’ve also heard of something called the New Apostolic Reformation. Is that the same thing or one an off shoot of the other?


11 posted on 08/24/2015 12:23:14 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: dangus

Why isn’t authority the simple means to determine how many separate groups there actually are? Like if one group writes to another group telling them to change something or fire someone and they obey, they are the same. If they don’t accept it, everyone recognizes they are different.

Freegards


12 posted on 08/24/2015 12:23:25 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: damonw

I hear this lie, give or take a few tens of thousands, all the time from leftist propagandists. I always ask them, “okay, list them.” They always decline.


13 posted on 08/24/2015 12:30:04 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: damonw
ARE THERE REALLY 38,000 DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS?

I don't know. But apparently, there are 38,000 genders.

14 posted on 08/24/2015 12:30:14 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: dangus
No, it's not even several thousand.

I see most Christian denominations as different families. Are we going to just assume that there are 10 million types of families because each one isn't exactly the same?

Most Bible believing members of whatever denomination can worship effectively together in a pinch without sacrificing essential doctrine. That puts the lies of the left soundly to bed.

15 posted on 08/24/2015 12:36:22 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: MNDude

A man is stopped on the streets of Ulster by an armed man, and this was the bad old days when you looked over your shoulder, were careful what neighborhoods you visited and moved along smartly.
He had wandered into a strange neighborhood.

The man with the gun demands to know, “Are you Catholic or Protestant?”
The stopped man stammers, “Why ... I, I, I’m an atheist!”

The armed man hesitates and then asks, “Sure you are. All right then. Are you a Protestant atheist or a Catholic atheist?”


16 posted on 08/24/2015 12:44:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

Ha! Pretty good. I heard it this way though:

A man is stopped on the streets of Ulster by an armed man, and this was the bad old days when you looked over your shoulder, were careful what neighborhoods you visited and moved along smartly.
He had wandered into a strange neighborhood.

The man with the gun demands to know, “Are you Catholic or Protestant?”
The stopped man stammers, “Why ... I, I, I’m Jewish”

The armed man hesitates and then says “Praise be to Allah! I’ve found the only one in Ulster!”


17 posted on 08/24/2015 12:49:01 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: Ransomed
Why isn’t authority the simple means to determine how many separate groups there actually are?

Because that overlooks subgroups giving lip-service to unity while functioning practically independently. Kinda like the United Kingdom with the Queen ruling over a Commonwealth, declaring a single sovereign entity while major components really going their own way and occasionally asking her permission or consenting to her rare decrees; when confronted said royalty will assert absolute sovereign monarchy over a unified "sun never sets" empire, yet nobody seriously considers Canada, Australia, et al anything but independent nations.

18 posted on 08/24/2015 1:02:28 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: damonw

Perhaps we should ask, how many of those “denominations” are Nicene Creed believers.


19 posted on 08/24/2015 1:04:31 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Never trust anyone who promotes "sensible" gun control laws!)
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To: damonw

See Revelation 12:9 Satan has deceived the whole world.


20 posted on 08/24/2015 1:18:30 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (Just scream and leap. Then Donate to Freerepublic.com)
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