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Does Catholicism Keep Nations Poor?

Posted on 09/04/2015 8:34:52 AM PDT by pinochet

Is Catholicism responsible for the fact that Mexico is a third world hell hole? The GDP per capita in Argentina is only one-third of the GDP per capita of America and Canada, despite the fact that Argentina has a larger percentage of Whites than America and Canada. Portugal and Spain are among the poorest West European nations in terms of GDP per capita. Is this caused by Catholicism, or is it caused by other problems?


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Could Latin American immigration make America poorer, because of greater poverty rates in European and Latin American Catholic cultures?
1 posted on 09/04/2015 8:34:52 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

No. Pinochet-era and post-Pinochet Chile and pre-Peron Argentina being counter-examples.


2 posted on 09/04/2015 8:37:45 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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The global elites WANT global poverty — and they don’t care how they get it.


3 posted on 09/04/2015 8:37:59 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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NOPE.. it’s the importation of proto democrats (from where ever) that keeps AMerica screwed up..

Democrats DESPISE America.. always have..


4 posted on 09/04/2015 8:39:52 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Czechoslovakia was 2/3rds Catholic in 1938, yet had the highest standard of living in Europe.

The problem in Latin America is the Latin Americans tend to put fascist / socialist dictators in power with great regularity.

5 posted on 09/04/2015 8:40:12 AM PDT by Campion
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Could a communist revolution 100 years ago ... that has not been reversed ... have anything to do with Mexico being a Third World cesspool?

Is such a thing even possible?

But that wouldn't grind anybody's denominational axe ... so we'll ignore it.

6 posted on 09/04/2015 8:40:39 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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Actually, at least as far as Argentina, you can probably blame the influence of Peron. Back in the early part of the 20th Century, Argentina was actually pretty prosperous, even buying American cars that many Americans couldn’t afford. All that changed with the rise of Juan Peron. He was a paternalistic fascist who beggared a once prosperous nation to build a cult of personality for himself. From what I heard from the authors of Guide to the Perfect Latin American Idiot. The authors make the claim that aspects of Spanish rule-such as opposition to the Enlightenment, Church-State separation, and mercantilism laid the seeds for Latin America’s dysfunction.


7 posted on 09/04/2015 8:42:09 AM PDT by Jacob Kell (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history, Obama is the yellow stain in front)
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To: pinochet

Got your mind already made up much?


8 posted on 09/04/2015 8:42:31 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (Liars use facts when the truth doesn't suit their purposes.)
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I think you'll find a stronger correlation between temperate climates and poverty than religion and poverty. Cold climates require people to be adaptive and employ innovative measures just to survive. I think this is probably the single biggest reason why the wealthiest nations in the world tend to be found in northern Asia, northern Europe and North America.

At the same time, this need to promote human ingenuity may also explain why these wealthy countries lose their sense of place with respect to God and man.

9 posted on 09/04/2015 8:42:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: BenLurkin

Wearing the tinfoil cap again?


10 posted on 09/04/2015 8:42:44 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl
Yes, of course.Mme AND Fluffy both!

11 posted on 09/04/2015 8:46:20 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: The_Reader_David

Socialism in Latin America is a function of their traditional political systems - kings running top-down feudal structures. This “strong man” tradition plays well for leftists. For the Spanish or French king of old, having a state religion, which they controlled, was an important part of their power base.

If anything, Catholicism, and its structure and internal organization concept of “subsidiarity” is truly conservative or even libertarian in nature.


12 posted on 09/04/2015 8:48:31 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: pinochet

It is not catholiciism per se, perhaps it is the Vatican power sharing plan?


13 posted on 09/04/2015 8:49:40 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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Well I do know from personal conversations with a relative who was a missionary for another denomination in Mexico years ago that :

1. The Catholic Churches there had all the usual gold trappings while their “parishioners” were dirt poor.
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2. When he arrived in a town the Priest led the locals to try and drive him out. ( I guess competition was bad for "business.")

14 posted on 09/04/2015 8:50:04 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

Got your mind already made up much?

I have not yet made up my mind on the issue. According to the Catholic Social Scientist, Father Greeley, White American Catholics have higher incomes than White Protestants. But in Canada, Catholic French Canadians have lower incomes than Protestant British Canadians.

Obviously, American Catholics have done a better job than American Protestants in adopting the Protestant work ethic. Catholicism does not automatically equal poverty in all circumstances.


15 posted on 09/04/2015 8:51:10 AM PDT by pinochet
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Pope Che has nothing but contempt for free market capitalism and has in fact called it the dung of the devil. Meanwhile Pope Che never has anything negative to about socialism. So yes, I do detect a strong hostility towards capitalism at the highest levels of the Church hierarchy. As a Catholic I am thoroughly disgusted. Capitalism has lifted countless millions of people out of poverty. It should be enthusiastically embraced by the Church, not condemned as the current pope often does.


16 posted on 09/04/2015 8:55:43 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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No, it’s not Catholicism, it’s the corrupt governments of those countries. Keep studying.


17 posted on 09/04/2015 8:56:19 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Campion

And as I recall Czechoslovakia had an automobile industry in the interwar years and made some fine cars.


18 posted on 09/04/2015 8:56:45 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: pinochet

My list of economic advantages:
1) Economic freedom
2) Rule of law/property rights
3) Importance given to intellectual improvement
4) Natural resources


19 posted on 09/04/2015 8:58:20 AM PDT by conejo99
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This thread is awesome. /s


20 posted on 09/04/2015 8:58:39 AM PDT by piusv
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