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Refuse to have kids? Then make room for migrants, Pope Francis says
cna ^ | September 14, 2015 | Elise Harris

Posted on 09/14/2015 2:29:13 PM PDT by NYer

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To: RetSignman

Harry Reid looks like such a happy camper. He can brighten any room - by walking out.


21 posted on 09/14/2015 2:45:36 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Cis-American)
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To: NYer
Why would I want to take in anybody that is diseased ridden, can't speak English, don't know how to take a bath, eat in a fine dining restaurant and be polite to people?????
22 posted on 09/14/2015 2:46:35 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ("Go TRUMP 2016!!! All the Way to the White House!!!)
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To: NYer

I hear Siberia has plenty of room.


23 posted on 09/14/2015 2:46:53 PM PDT by toast
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Isn’t he basically saying what Mark Steyn has been saying for years? That Western Europe’s failure to have children is the main reason why the immigrants are taking over, demographics is destiny.


24 posted on 09/14/2015 2:47:53 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: toast

But do we want an Islamic Siberia?


25 posted on 09/14/2015 2:47:56 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Truthsearcher

Immigrants only ‘take over’ in the midst of demographic decline IF you let them in.

Japan has so far declined. And other than demographic decline they seem to relatively free of other social disruptions.


26 posted on 09/14/2015 2:48:56 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: NYer
this is one of the few sensible statements he has said....about if you don't have kids, prepare for immigrants, legal or illegal....

one would think that freepers being knowledgeable would understand the absolute need and responsibility to have children and raise them up right...

but we still have so many women haters here and so many that dislike children, apparently....and they are the first to rail against the illegals....

a vacuum fills....that's it in a nutshell...

27 posted on 09/14/2015 2:50:39 PM PDT by cherry
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To: NYer

Good thing we have the Pope saying out load in public what we have long suspected the elites say to each other in private.


28 posted on 09/14/2015 2:51:03 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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So I have no children living in my rather large house. I’m retired. So this commie pope says I should put refugees in my “extra” space. This guy is a commie. How many refugees is he allowing to live in all those empty “papal apartments”? What a hypocrite commie.


29 posted on 09/14/2015 2:51:31 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

The Pinko Pope.


30 posted on 09/14/2015 2:53:16 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: NYer

Well he refuses to have any, then why won`t this hypocrite let them into the vatican?


31 posted on 09/14/2015 2:54:06 PM PDT by nomad
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To: central_va

Then why are saying the Pope’s statement is bull crap?

West Europeans are not having children.

That creates a magnet for immigration.

Same here to a lesser extent.

But US fertility rate is below replacement levels.

Excluding immigrants, US fertility rate is significantly below replacement levels.


32 posted on 09/14/2015 2:54:29 PM PDT by Reaganez
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Well Comrade Pope, who are you to judge?


33 posted on 09/14/2015 2:55:13 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Jeb Bush for President ... of Meh-e-co ... he talks their language and he walks the socialist walk!)
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To: central_va

Pope Francis just may have swerved into a basic truth - some populations just commit cultural suicide, by limitation of their own upcoming generations.

With growing levels of technology, each person is vastly more productive, which actually REDUCES wage demands, though the wage levels may rise as a consequence. Thus, no “people shortages” exist at the higher levels of technology. In fact, there may be a SURPLUS of people, that have to be taken care of by some means. That results in the rise of the welfare class. It is the welfare benefits that are attracting the immigrants, not the job opportunities.

This is where we run into these various “social justice” doctrines, that it is somehow the RESPONSIBILITY to assure welfare benefits. But those benefits may only be financed by ever-increasing productivity, which evolves from continued improvements in technology. Who works in a steel mill any more? Much of the smelting and pouring of ingots is automated now, removing humans from close proximity with molten steel and the really awesome machinery that could crush and mangle frail human bodies with scarcely a quiver.

Overwhelming the existing welfare machinery (by bringing in large unskilled populations) can only fan unrest, as suddenly, there are not enough resources to adequately support all these new applicants for social services, and still fund the expanded technology that is an absolute prerequisite to support the welfare benefits. Eating the seed corn, so to speak.


34 posted on 09/14/2015 2:56:22 PM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: Reaganez
...US fertility rate is significantly below replacement levels.

I like to help reverse that trend, but I am just one guy and can only do so much.
35 posted on 09/14/2015 2:58:18 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: NYer
That map sure makes it clear which way the flow is going to go.

Check this Link

I've been saying for years: (tagline)

36 posted on 09/14/2015 3:00:19 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum.)
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To: Reaganez
That creates a magnet for immigration.

Less than replacement birthrate is not a crises. All that means is that the population is going to be less than is its now in the foreseeable future. It should not be a reason to flood the USA with peasants from the third world and create a socialist 3rd hellhole.

If you let it go to its conclusion there will be a new baby boom of the native population as the older generation dies off.

Get a grip or am I talking with Merkel?

37 posted on 09/14/2015 3:00:46 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; NYer

Oh, right. It has nothing to do with the natural and logical consequences of blenderizing 50 million of our own children.


38 posted on 09/14/2015 3:01:31 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Increasing the fertility rate only really helps a country if you don’t increase the rate of children reared by single mothers.

Increasing the fertility rate ghetto style by having 30 bastards all over the place just increases the crime rate in 15 years.

So yeah, only so much one guy can do.


39 posted on 09/14/2015 3:03:12 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: cherry
his is one of the few sensible statements he has said....about if you don't have kids, prepare for immigrants, legal or illegal....

It is nonsensical to import people when a third of your population is idle and not working. Get a grip.

40 posted on 09/14/2015 3:04:21 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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