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Majority of American Catholics Have Left the Church, Pew Survey Reveals
Christian Post ^ | 09/17/2015 | Vincent Funaro

Posted on 09/17/2015 12:42:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: ealgeone
Did you or did you not suggest the one abused by priests were at fault because they didn’t speak up? IIRC I told you to request the post be pulled.

Absolutely not...IF they were true victims, and MANY were not, they deserve our sympathy. Some of them, however, only became victims when large settlements were being discussed....there were a minority of them who were willing participants because many of the incidents were homosexual attractions.

I was an altar boy, knew many altar boys, went to nice organized campouts, picnics etc designed to reward us and never heard of one one incidence of abuse of any kind....Milwaukee archdiocese.

As the picture of the abuse began to unfold, I immediately smelled a rat...while many were undoubtedly true and certainly mishandled by the church....many were total attempts to get in on the money bandwagon. I justify none of it, but it is such a miniscule part of church history as to be meaningless in the large picture....you do not judge the Catholic church by a virtual handfull of deranged employees who abused their possitions.

221 posted on 09/20/2015 2:06:19 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: terycarl
>>Did you or did you not suggest the one abused by priests were at fault because they didn’t speak up? IIRC I told you to request the post be pulled.<<

Absolutely not...IF they were true victims, and MANY were not, they deserve our sympathy. Some of them, however, only became victims when large settlements were being discussed....there were a minority of them who were willing participants because many of the incidents were homosexual attractions.

TC, you're embarrassing yourself again. You're making the same insinuation you did previously.

The thread's still out there. Too many other comments followed yours saying you were blaming the victim. Fortunately for you, your original comment was removed by the RM.

My advice to you is to quit trying to dig out of this hole. It's only getting deeper.

222 posted on 09/20/2015 2:21:58 PM PDT by ealgeone
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“GENEVA — The Vatican revealed Tuesday that over the past decade, it has defrocked 848 priests who raped or molested children and sanctioned another 2,572 with lesser penalties, providing the first ever breakdown of how it handled the more than 3,400 cases of abuse reported to the Holy See since 2004.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/vatican-reveals-how-many-priests-defrocked-for-sex-abuse-since-2004/

I wouldn’t call that a handful. I believe there were also many not reported.

It was/is a plague.

Worse, these priests were shuffled around by bishops to protect them.


223 posted on 09/20/2015 4:20:21 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

and that’s just since 2004....who knows the real total?


224 posted on 09/20/2015 6:02:49 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
According to The Official Report of THE UNITED STATES CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS

- PDF File at Link -

The number reported from 1950 until 2002 was in excess of 10,000.

And of course, this is not all of the abuse.

The report is 291 pages of detail of who, what, where, when, why, how, how many times, etc. It is quite sickening to look at.

It is clearly not a "handful" of individuals, as was stated upthread.

225 posted on 09/20/2015 6:41:59 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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and this is just the us....and after 1950.

yes, it's a massive betrayal of trust. each and every one of these "priests" should have been fired or whatever happens to catholic priests.

226 posted on 09/20/2015 6:46:04 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
yes, it's a massive betrayal of trust. each and every one of these "priests" should have been fired or whatever happens to catholic priests.

We've SEEN what this is!

"Hi! I'm Father O'Flanagan. I used to serve the Lord in _______________."

227 posted on 09/21/2015 4:27:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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