Posted on 09/21/2015 8:02:17 AM PDT by Salvation
Matthew 16: 17-19
Peter’s Confession of Christ
17And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18”I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19”I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.”
Without the Catholic Church there would be no Protestantism.
And Christ says:
You are Cephas and upon this Cephas I will build my church.
Are you claiming that Christ woefully deceived us when He said this?
The Church is built upon Christ. And yet Christ claims that He will build His Church upon Cephas.
Both statements are necessarily true. Start from there, and one begins to get a feel for why the Pope is called the Vicar of Christ.
Thanks.
Linked below is a short work from the 19th century that will help you identify your pope. I suggest everyone here read it and beg the Lord for wisdom and discernment along the way. I don’t say link this to offend or upset Catholics, but because I care. Even though I don’t know any of you, I know your soul is too important and eternity is too long to be wrong about this. This papal antichrist will lead many over the cliff to destruction and doom. I don’t want to see anyone here go down that path.
The Papacy is the Antichrist: A Demonstration
http://www.historicism.net/readingmaterials/thepapacy.pdf
Pope Francis would never say that. He is a representative of Christ.
Without the Catholic Church there would have been no need for the Reformation. The church would have remained Christ-centric from the days of the Apostles.
FTI, no indulgences are sold today.
We ask Mary and the saints to pray for us.
Please educate yourself on the process of canonization. It is very complicated and long.
So Protestants believe that:
* Christ lied about giving us His Body and Blood.
* The Angel Gabriel lied about Mary being full of grace.
Why is it wrong to ask other people to pray for you?
If it’s wrong then you should definitely bust into the next Freeper prayer-request thread and put everybody right.
Uh, no. Start from there and you see that the church is built upon Evangelism as practiced by Peter and the other Apostles. Peter is a model missionary, willing to suffer even a terrible death as a result of his work. That is the reference Christ made regarding Peter.
Catholic edifices are almost entirely man-made off-topic contrivances designed for secular governance of an ignorant population.
Dead ones? Man-proclaimed special envoys to the Father? Jesus taught us to pray, and that lesson did not include intermediaries. Praying for someone else or asking someone to pray for you is NOT equivalent to communicating with God through some sort of proxy server.
No thanks. That is not a Biblical process, but rather an invention of a secular power-structure masquerading as a religious entity.
We ask Mary and the saints to pray for us.
Yes you do. There is no Biblical precedent for such activity. It is precisely like ancestor intersession practiced by Buddhists and other religions. It is idolatry.
If Christ meant to build only on Cephas's evangelism, then why did Christ give him the keys of heaven and the power to bind and loose?
And if there is no Apostolic succession - which is where Papal succession comes from - then why did the Apostles choose successors?
That power is extended to all believers. Even I can forgive sins in the name of Jesus Christ.
From Paul, or?...
No schism? Somehow given the human mind, I doubt that.
More gymnastics. Nobody asks the Saints to communicate with God as 'through some sort of proxy server', whatever that means. We ask Mary and the Saints to pray for us.
And why wouldn't we? They are alive in Christ. More alive than we are!
So the Evangelism program wouldn't dry up. So that those who were observed to be delivering the actual Gospel could be identified to the people as genuine. So that the most knowledgeable, experienced, and successful among them could serve in influential positions for training purposes. It was not a kingship. You might recall that Jesus himself scoffed at the idea of being an earthly king.
That has been rather continuous, hasn't it?
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