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The Apostolic and Evangelical Journeys of Jesus, Writ Large! Biblical Roots of a Papal Visit
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 09-20-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 09/21/2015 8:02:17 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It’s even in the King James Bible!

http://biblehub.com/matthew/16-18.htm


21 posted on 09/21/2015 8:52:43 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Matthew 16: 17-19

Peter’s Confession of Christ
…17And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18”I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19”I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.”…


22 posted on 09/21/2015 8:53:03 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: GingisK

Without the Catholic Church there would be no Protestantism.


23 posted on 09/21/2015 8:53:19 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: .45 Long Colt
Christ is indeed the cornerstone.

And Christ says:

You are Cephas and upon this Cephas I will build my church.

Are you claiming that Christ woefully deceived us when He said this?

The Church is built upon Christ. And yet Christ claims that He will build His Church upon Cephas.

Both statements are necessarily true. Start from there, and one begins to get a feel for why the Pope is called the Vicar of Christ.

24 posted on 09/21/2015 8:54:42 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: Oratam

Thanks.


25 posted on 09/21/2015 8:57:25 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: agere_contra

Linked below is a short work from the 19th century that will help you identify your pope. I suggest everyone here read it and beg the Lord for wisdom and discernment along the way. I don’t say link this to offend or upset Catholics, but because I care. Even though I don’t know any of you, I know your soul is too important and eternity is too long to be wrong about this. This papal antichrist will lead many over the cliff to destruction and doom. I don’t want to see anyone here go down that path.

The Papacy is the Antichrist: A Demonstration
http://www.historicism.net/readingmaterials/thepapacy.pdf


26 posted on 09/21/2015 8:57:37 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: ifinnegan

Pope Francis would never say that. He is a representative of Christ.


27 posted on 09/21/2015 8:59:28 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: onedoug
Without the Catholic Church there would be no Protestantism.

Without the Catholic Church there would have been no need for the Reformation. The church would have remained Christ-centric from the days of the Apostles.

28 posted on 09/21/2015 9:00:46 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

FTI, no indulgences are sold today.

We ask Mary and the saints to pray for us.

Please educate yourself on the process of canonization. It is very complicated and long.


29 posted on 09/21/2015 9:01:22 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: DungeonMaster
Among other things like a celibate priesthood, transubstantiation, immaculate conception, purgatory...

So Protestants believe that:

* Christ lied about giving us His Body and Blood.

* The Angel Gabriel lied about Mary being full of grace.

30 posted on 09/21/2015 9:02:54 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: GingisK

Why is it wrong to ask other people to pray for you?

If it’s wrong then you should definitely bust into the next Freeper prayer-request thread and put everybody right.


31 posted on 09/21/2015 9:05:16 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: agere_contra
Start from there, and one begins to get a feel for why the Pope is called the Vicar of Christ.

Uh, no. Start from there and you see that the church is built upon Evangelism as practiced by Peter and the other Apostles. Peter is a model missionary, willing to suffer even a terrible death as a result of his work. That is the reference Christ made regarding Peter.

Catholic edifices are almost entirely man-made off-topic contrivances designed for secular governance of an ignorant population.

32 posted on 09/21/2015 9:07:36 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: agere_contra
Why is it wrong to ask other people to pray for you?

Dead ones? Man-proclaimed special envoys to the Father? Jesus taught us to pray, and that lesson did not include intermediaries. Praying for someone else or asking someone to pray for you is NOT equivalent to communicating with God through some sort of proxy server.

33 posted on 09/21/2015 9:10:44 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Salvation
Please educate yourself on the process of canonization.

No thanks. That is not a Biblical process, but rather an invention of a secular power-structure masquerading as a religious entity.

We ask Mary and the saints to pray for us.

Yes you do. There is no Biblical precedent for such activity. It is precisely like ancestor intersession practiced by Buddhists and other religions. It is idolatry.

34 posted on 09/21/2015 9:15:16 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
And Protestant exegesis seems to be a lot of gymnastics designed to avoid the truth of what Christ actually said.

If Christ meant to build only on Cephas's evangelism, then why did Christ give him the keys of heaven and the power to bind and loose?

And if there is no Apostolic succession - which is where Papal succession comes from - then why did the Apostles choose successors?

35 posted on 09/21/2015 9:15:21 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: agere_contra
then why did Christ give him the keys of heaven and the power to bind and loose?

That power is extended to all believers. Even I can forgive sins in the name of Jesus Christ.

36 posted on 09/21/2015 9:17:19 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

From Paul, or?...

No schism? Somehow given the human mind, I doubt that.


37 posted on 09/21/2015 9:20:06 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: GingisK
Praying for someone else or asking someone to pray for you is NOT equivalent to communicating with God through some sort of proxy server.

More gymnastics. Nobody asks the Saints to communicate with God as 'through some sort of proxy server', whatever that means. We ask Mary and the Saints to pray for us.

And why wouldn't we? They are alive in Christ. More alive than we are!

38 posted on 09/21/2015 9:21:27 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: agere_contra
then why did the Apostles choose successors?

So the Evangelism program wouldn't dry up. So that those who were observed to be delivering the actual Gospel could be identified to the people as genuine. So that the most knowledgeable, experienced, and successful among them could serve in influential positions for training purposes. It was not a kingship. You might recall that Jesus himself scoffed at the idea of being an earthly king.

39 posted on 09/21/2015 9:21:45 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: onedoug
No schism? Somehow given the human mind...

That has been rather continuous, hasn't it?

40 posted on 09/21/2015 9:23:10 AM PDT by GingisK
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