Davis’ Lawyer Disputes Vatican Description of Meeting

KSN.com ^ | 10/2/15 | AP

[marshmallow]

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Kim Davis’ attorney is disputing the Vatican’s description and interpretation of her Sept. 24 meeting with Pope Francis.

Attorney Mat Staver told The Associated Press early Friday that the meeting was an affirmation of the Kentucky county clerk’s right to be conscientious objector.

He says Vatican personnel initiated contact with Davis’ camp on Sept. 14 saying the pope wanted to meet her.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Please note that in his case Kim Davis and the Pope are in agreement.

It's been a damned tangled and confusing case (I had to draw a chart for myself to keep straight who said what, and when), but if you want to read some of my past posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:mrsdono/index?brevity=full;tab=comments

--- especially the most recent ones, I think you'll see that Pope Francis and Kim Davis are on the same page. But the surrounding clerical bureaucracy at times resembles a pit of snakes. Ugh. I can see why Pope Benedict left. (I MISS HIM SO!!)

[Mrs. Don-o]

Raindrop, I think you're quite wrong to say Kim Davis' word "means nothing."

There's nothing in print that say she was told to keep the meeting secret "forever." My impression was that they didn't want Kim to be accused of media-whoring / pre-empting / highjacking the whole Papal Trip Epic by a premature disclosure.

I never read anywhere that it was supposed to be hush-hush permanently.

The meeting took place Tuesday, Sept. 24, just minutes before Pope Francis' flight back to Rome. The story wasn't made public until Tuesday, Sept. 29, after the Pope had been back home for five days, and journos were writing their wrap-ups. The story didn't debut with the wire-services or the networks, but with Robert Moynihan's "Inside the Vatican" journal.

Reading that article was refreshing. Reading the follow-ups was an on-going, first-class headache. That's not Kim Davis' fault, nor the Pope's fault either. I blame it on the EneMedia and their snakey clerical friends who never miss a chance to drag an honest woman --- Kim Davis--- through the gutters of their minds.

[Mrs. Don-o]

See #40 -- it may be of interest to you.

[vbmoneyspender]

The Pope’s underlings are calling her a liar after he asked to meet with her and he has said nothing to defend her. I call that cowardly behavior. The Pope shouldn’t get a pass just because he’s the Pope.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Hmm, don't know what happened there. Try this one:

https://www.lc.org/newsroom/details/popes-words-and-meetings-support-conscientious-objection

[Mrs. Don-o]

I'd like to see stronger words, and especially, stronger action from the Pope, myself. However, it's now 10 days since the meeting took place, and ever since he touched down in Rome he's been immersed in the run-up to a 3-week synod which starts today, with 270 bishops, including 74 cardinals, as well as experts and lay people, and a new controversy every minute.

I don't think it's realistic to expect him to keep up with Kim Davis. She is a noble lady and deserves every support. He blessed her in a private meeting. His press secretary confirmed the meeting. The Orcs are still mewling and gibbering but all their calumnies can't be addressed. Best thing we can do, it seems to me, is to take up her cause and support her.

I sent in my little pittance to her lawyers at Liberty Counsel (LINK), and cordially invite you to do the same.

I'm sure not going to attack Kim's ally, the Pope--- not this time, not on this one. I'm going to contribute to the fight for liberty.

Ask yourself: "What would Kim Davis do?"

[af_vet_1981]

Would you trust someone who can’t keep a secret?

When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

And again, departing from the coasts of Tyre and Sidon, he came unto the sea of Galilee, through the midst of the coasts of Decapolis. And they bring unto him one that was deaf, and had an impediment in his speech; and they beseech him to put his hand upon him. And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue; And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened. And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain. And he charged them that they should tell no man: but the more he charged them, so much the more a great deal they published it; And were beyond measure astonished, saying, He hath done all things well: he maketh both the deaf to hear, and the dumb to speak.

Matthew, Catholic chapter sixteen, Protestant verses thirteen to twenty,
Mark, Catholic chapter seven, Protestant verses thirty one to thirty seven,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James,
bold emphasis mine

Well, would you ?

[Mrs. Don-o]

And BTW, the Pope's "underlings" aren't the ones calling Kim Davis a liar; it's the in-house antipope faction who have been busy doing that. On the contrary, his spokesman Lombardi, dodgy inveterate cephalopod though he may be, actually confirmed the meeting when the jackals were claiming it didn't even happen.

[vbmoneyspender]

This is this Pope's MO. Anything that might give sustenance to non-leftists is walked back by the liberal mafia among the Catholic clergy and the Pope is content to let that happen. Here is an article which I believe explains why See Link

Pope John Paul II was a hero of the 20th Century as was Pope Pius XII. But Pope Francis is anything but that. I personally believe he is a weak-willed leftist who is unwilling to come out and forcefully say what he actually believes for fear of the blowback he would get if he were upfront about his beliefs.

[MarvinStinson]

“the surrounding clerical bureaucracy at times resembles a pit of snakes.”

Sad.

[MarvinStinson]

“This is this Pope’s MO. Anything that might give sustenance to non-leftists is walked back by the liberal mafia among the Catholic clergy and the Pope is content to let that happen.”

Is this next true to some degree?

“This is this Obama’s MO. Anything that might give sustenance to non-leftists is walked back by the administration spokesmen and Obama is content to let that happen.”

[MarvinStinson]

The left lies.

The left CANNOT ALLOW anything other than their own Agenda.

[ebb tide]

However, it's now 10 days since the meeting took place, and ever since he touched down in Rome he's been immersed in the run-up to a 3-week synod which starts today, with 270 bishops, including 74 cardinals, as well as experts and lay people, and a new controversy every minute.

May God help us. There was no other reason for this synod than to wink at sins of the flesh. All at Francis' initiative.

[ebb tide]

And BTW, the Pope's "underlings" aren't the ones calling Kim Davis a liar; it's the in-house antipope faction who have been busy doing that.

If they're "in-house" in the Vatican, are they not "underlings" of the pope?

Msgr. Battista Ricca comes to mind. And who brought Ricca into the the pope's "house"?

[Mrs. Don-o]

You’ve got a good point there, and it’s vexing. Pope Francis seems to clasp these asps to his bosom.

[Mrs. Don-o]

"There was no other reason for this synod than to wink at sins of the flesh"

Keep praying. You may be surprised by the Holy Spirit pulling something out of His hat here. Something similar to +Paul VI appointing all those pro-contraceptors to his Birth Control Study Commission, and then reaffirming the true and perennial (no-contraceptives) teaching of the Church in Humanae Vitae.

I get discouraged too, but I read somewhere recently (was it in one of the prayers at Mass? I sang at our Latin Mass yesterday) that what we ask of God, we ask in joyful confidence which comes from our trust in his infinite goodness.

That was, and is always, quite a challenge to me.

[ebb tide]

Pray the rosary. It worked at Lepanto; it can work here.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Amen.

[Salvation]

**May God help us.**

Amen.

Pray the Rosary for the Synod.