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To: af_vet_1981
Thanks for your reply.

The reason I said she "thought" was simply to confirm what was on her mind. I did not mean to imply that she wasn't worshipping Abraham's God. She was. and God blessed her. I can see why you thought that I meant something else, though.

Naturally, you know that I don't buy the statement that catechism is authoritative. But I won't go there because we are having a nice dialog.

I definitely DO worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, Rahab, Naomi, Nahum, Paul, Mary, and Onesimus -just to name a few.

I worship the same God that Jews worship in truth. They are God's chosen people and I believe that they can be saved if they accept Christ as their Lord and Savior. Without Christ, their knowledge of God is incomplete but they worship the same God as I, when they worship Him in truth.

The simple question isn't whether KR worships the same God as the Jews (He does.), it is:

Does the Holy Roman Catholic Church believe that the God it worships is the same as the God who is worshiped by Muslims?

Please continue to be patient with me.

#839 is about the Jews. It is not relevant to the question I am humbly asking.

#840 is about people of the Covenant. Hagar is not of the same covenant. As Sarah said, (Gen 21) “Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac.” And it is so. See also Gen 17:21 and Gal 4:24, regarding the two covenants.

#841 is an incomplete view of salvation. God's Word is clear about that. Adoring the one merciful God is not a ticket to eternal life. That, too is a subject that we have engaged in the past - and may we put that important question aside for the sake of this dialog?

I want to make one point clear: ANY person who trust God by trusting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior will be saved. I became part of the Covenant by being "grafted in contrary to nature." (Rom 11) The same could be true for any person - including Muslims.

But the question remains and I do not yet see an answer that is plain and clear to me.

219 posted on 10/15/2015 2:28:03 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: kinsman redeemer
But the question remains and I do not yet see an answer that is plain and clear

I think you just answered it yourself. You allowed that the Jews worship and adore the same God as you profess to worship and adore, albeit not with the full understanding of the truth. I believe you. The common factor is each of these three religious traditions professes to worship and adore the God of Abraham. All three also believe Isaac and Jacob were blessed and chosen of God. There is only one God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Messiah went to the Samaritans who also professed to worship the same God of Abraham as the Jews. The Samaritans were in error, yet they had a common reference point to the same God.

221 posted on 10/15/2015 2:59:32 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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