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To: ealgeone

It doesn’t matter how other religions define God. He is Who He is as He doesn’t change.


This is exactly my point! Regardless of how other religions define God, He does not change. It is a historical fact that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all trace their origin to the same God of Abraham. But it is only through Christianity that God has fully revealed who He is through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. The other two religions are in error.


355 posted on 10/16/2015 6:49:32 PM PDT by rwa265 (This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. John 15:12)
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To: rwa265
So why does Catholicism say they worship the same God as Islam?

If I've got the time period right, it was amended in the 1960s through Nostra Aetate (1965) and Lumen Gentium (1964) If that is incorrect, someone please provide the correct dates.

Nostra Aetate seems to take further what is in the catechism.

The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5) who has spoken to men;

STOP!! WHAT?????

There can be no doubt here Catholicism is equating muslims and catholics worshipping the SAME God.

Who else are they referring to in this section??

The false god of Islam is not, never has been, and never will be God as revealed in the Word.

they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham,

WHAT???

with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead.

Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting.

Are they saying catholics and muslims worship the same God??

Since in the course of centuries not a few quarrels and hostilities have arisen between Christians and Moslems, this sacred synod urges all to forget the past and to work sincerely for mutual understanding and to preserve as well as to promote together for the benefit of all mankind social justice and moral welfare, as well as peace and freedom. http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651028_nostra-aetate_en.html

On religions:

Religions, however, that are bound up with an advanced culture have struggled to answer the same questions by means of more refined concepts and a more developed language. Thus in Hinduism, men contemplate the divine mystery and express it through an inexhaustible abundance of myths and through searching philosophical inquiry. They seek freedom from the anguish of our human condition either through ascetical practices or profound meditation or a flight to God with love and trust. Again, Buddhism, in its various forms, realizes the radical insufficiency of this changeable world; it teaches a way by which men, in a devout and confident spirit, may be able either to acquire the state of perfect liberation, or attain, by their own efforts or through higher help, supreme illumination. Likewise, other religions found everywhere try to counter the restlessness of the human heart, each in its own manner, by proposing "ways," comprising teachings, rules of life, and sacred rites. The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions.

However, if these are correct, they certainly (?) knew the difference between who Islam worships and catholics worship.

So why put it in there?

357 posted on 10/16/2015 7:53:06 PM PDT by ealgeone
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