Posted on 11/06/2015 11:30:07 AM PST by NYer
“Sadly, ever since the plague if Protestantism we have thousands of contradictory heretical sects and this is because of low-information Christians. How else do you explain the rot of the Joel Osteens? the Mormons? The Jehovah’s Witnesses? and the vast army of fools who take upon themselves to interpret scripture.
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Or your current pope, or a great many evil popes, priests, cardinals... Or buying and selling church offices, or so many gays in your denomination?? Indeed.
That bears repeating! Thanks, SR! \
Hebrews 4: ...12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. 13 Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. 15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet he did not sin. 16 Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
Could have, should have, maybe.
Pure speculation.
So, even presuming that maybe Paul did, prove to us that what Rome teaches today came from Paul, that it was passed down faithfully without corruption of any kind.
The fact that the statement is the singular genitive proves that Jesus didn't give Mary to *the church*, that John doesn't represent the body of believers.
It proves that He was talking to only John.
Proof please.
Hoss
In error....so much for truth for Protestants.
"For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" Rom. 3:23
All have sinned. Show me where, in Scripture, anyone OTHER than Christ was sinless.... Or where Mary is specifically stated to be sinless and / or a perpetual virgin.
Even Mary knew she needed a savior. She said so!
Hoss
Would these seriously intelligent people (or others like them) also be responsible for CCC 841 which teaches Roman Catholics and Muslims worship the "same, merciful God...."?
I don't think your claim has any wings.
Hoss
I’m just wondering about this obsession that some Roman Catholics have with Mary’s virginity.
I think you’re one of those who say Mary was sinless. Is your virginity obsession directly related to your sinless obsession? Do you think that if Mary had sex with her husband, Joseph, that she would have been sinning? So, sex with Joseph was an impossibility for Mary?
I know... I know. What’s the point of asking you anything. You don’t answer my straightforward questions.
Do you equate marital sex with sin?
Why is it out of the question that Jesis had half-brothers?
Do you think that Mary’s DNA was in Jesus’ blood?
Do you have pictures or website text you can cut n’ paste to answer any of these questions?
Those pesky facts~ always getting in the way of obsessions.
Correction:
Why is it out of the question that Jesus had half-brothers?
Explain the worldwide, regional, and even local contradictions in Holy Roman Catholic "churches".
Explain the contradictory temporal changes in the "Holy Roman Catholic Church's" application of rules and procedures.
And while you're at it: either list the "thousands" of protestant sects or use a different number.
Furthermore:
Therefore, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that "an idol has no real existence," and that "there is no God but one." For although there may be so- called gods in heaven or on earth - as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords" - yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. (I Cor 8:4-6)You said "sects" and I would have said "religions." I say that "religions" do one of three things: They either "excuse", "promote", or "ignore" sin. Because of that, I have no use for "religion."
I trust Jesus Christ and His Word alone to inform me. Men tend to "carve" their own image of God and thus to suit themselves and their sin.
Some religions are closer to God's Truth than others (based on how they disciple their adherents). Others have used sharp knives to shape something that looks good but is far, far from the Truth. Many religions look good from man's perspective because they fit man's natural expectation of what makes sense to them ("MY God wouldn't ..."). Many people fall into those errors and will go to hell.
We hear from them every day.
Doesn't that mean they weren't acquainted?
Oh, MY!
The Bible says Joseph "KNEW" his wife??
OH! MY!
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Look, Rufus' mother is the mother of us all! She is even more humble than Mary, we don't even know her name but you can bet that she was immaculately conceived and is the queen of heaven. She hears our prayers and intercedes with Jesus and He must listen to her because she is the mother of us all.
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
Have you ever lusted in your heart/mind? Ever?
A simple yes or no are the only two choices.
“The son of you” implies that there are no other son.
It proves he was talking to only one person. Was John Mary’s only son, literally?
A simple yes or no are the only two choices.
That you dodged the question leads me to believe your answer is no.
It goes to illustrate we cannot, no matter how much we may try, be good enough to gain Heaven.
It's only through the blood of Christ we are saved. We cannot earn it.
A catholic will argue that they are not yet saved and then point to the passage from the Bible which appears to require perfect behavior to be in the family of God by the presence of God's Spirit in the human spirit.
If the one to whom they aim such a passage (as seen in a recent post to Mark17) makes claim to have been born from above, the catholic mind can reinforce that catholic notion which teaches them they cannot obtain salvation UNTIL they have gone through the hoops of catholic dogma and even a suffering process where they earn entry to Heaven.
If questioned as to their knowing they are saved (not striving to be saved, but saved as in born from above) the catholic can revert to the passage used to try and negate the assurance of salvation the non-Catholic has (as Mark17 has so beautifully shared) and claim that they, the catholics, know they are not yet saved because they are not yet able to behave perfectly before the Lord, as if ANY but Jesus can do that but that they have yet to arrive at such perfects works.
Catholic minds are stuck on a track which reinforces the false notion that in this life salvation rights may be earned, but so few earn them that purgatory must be applied in order to earn the right to salvation.
Of course the Bible not only assures a reader that they may know immediately that their human spirit has been cleansed from unrighteousness and the Holy Spirit of God entered therein, and the Bible even illustrates this TRUTH with two very powerful scenes of the event (the Day of Pentecost following the Ascension and the house of the Roman Centurion, Cornelius). But those illustrations must be explained away because they contradict the magicsteeringthem declarations which catholic minds must follow for righteousness.
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