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To: rwa265

God created Mary; she could not possibly be His mother. God is infinite; Mary is not. (The Bible warns us about worshiping the creature instead of the Creator.)

He used Mary as a vessel/tool to introduce His Son to earth. In that role, she was Jesus’ earthly mother.

In Luke, Mary called God her “Savior”. If she were God’s mother, she would be perfect — God-like. If so, she would not need a “Savior”.


420 posted on 11/11/2015 3:17:28 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam

Such a clear reasoning is not digestible for catholics who seek to justify the worship of Mary (even as they deny they worship their Mary with bowing to her statue and image and praying to her for things ONLY God would do). To the catholic mind, the religion of catholiciism worships much more than God The Father Almighty. The catechisms call the catholic Mary things that would insult the Mother of Jesus. I believe the Mother of Jesus is far more humble and righteous than to accept being called a mediatrix.


421 posted on 11/11/2015 4:26:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MayflowerMadam

God created Mary; she could not possibly be His mother.

- God created all of us; He could not possibly become one of us. (But He did.)

God is infinite; Mary is not.

- That’s a given. It was only when the Word became flesh that Mary gave birth to the Son of God.

(The Bible warns us about worshiping the creature instead of the Creator.)

- John Calvin also warned us about this. That’s why he felt that it was not appropriate to call Mary the mother of God. Even so, he recognized the reality of Mary’s maternal relationship to the Second Person of the Trinity.

He used Mary as a vessel/tool to introduce His Son to earth. In that role, she was Jesus’ earthly mother.

- This is why I have trouble understanding how it can be said that Mary is not the mother of God. It was the will of the Father that she conceive of and give birth to His only begotten Son. In that sense, and only in that sense, Mary became the mother of God in the person of Jesus Christ.

In Luke, Mary called God her “Savior”. If she were God’s mother, she would be perfect - God-like. If so, she would not need a “Savior”.

- She conceived of and gave birth to Jesus, who is God. If she can bring Him into the world without being perfect, why can’t she also be His mother?

Going back to the post to which you first responded, do you believe that Jesus, the son of Mary, is God? If so, how can Mary not be the mother of God if Jesus is God? Would that not be denying His divinity?


422 posted on 11/11/2015 4:44:55 PM PST by rwa265
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