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To: metmom

Then Mary gave birth to divinity?

The second person of the Godhead didn’t exist until Mary birthed Him?

And then did GOD, the second person of the Godhead die on the cross as well?


What does Scripture tell us?

- Then Mary gave birth to divinity?

Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Matthew 1:18-23

And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Luke 1:30-35

I suppose these Scriptures can be interpreted in various ways, but how can it be said that these verses do not reveal that the child Mary gave birth to was divine?

- The second person of the Godhead didn’t exist until Mary birthed Him?

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 1:1-18

So the second person of the Godhead did exist in the beginning and became flesh when Mary conceived and birthed Him.

- And then did GOD, the second person of the Godhead die on the cross as well?

Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. Matthew 27:50

When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. John 15:30

God left the body of Jesus at His death, so no, God did not die, but it is clear from Scripture that God experienced the Crucifixion and death of Jesus.

Scripture clearly reveals that the son of Mary is God.


62 posted on 11/07/2015 4:32:32 AM PST by rwa265
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To: rwa265
Scripture clearly reveals that the son of Mary is God.

Then you are making Mary mother of His divinity, thus making HER God and above God. And it denies His humanity.

Scripture clearly reveals that the son of Mary is *JESUS*.

68 posted on 11/07/2015 6:19:28 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: rwa265
I suppose these Scriptures can be interpreted in various ways, but how can it be said that these verses do not reveal that the child Mary gave birth to was divine?

Mary had no connection to the divinity of Jesus...The divinity of Jesus was not created in Mary...It was placed there by God...

Each one of us has a soul and a spirit...Neither of which was created by the human parents...They are placed withing the human body by God...

You people keep saying you can't separate the humanity from the divinity of Jesus...Of course you can...Well you can't but God can...

If you are a born again Christian, at death your body goes down and your soul and spirit go up...Why would Jesus not have the same ability???

In fact, if Jesus' divine spirit could not have separated from his body, Jesus could not have died...That what death is, when the spirit leaves the body...

77 posted on 11/07/2015 7:30:12 AM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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