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To: Gamecock

Not sure if Luther continued in the Reformed tradition, but certainly the understanding of the “gift” of salvation by grace through faith was clarified later by TULIP. And, this is often neglected nowadays, even by some who claim the “reformed tradition”. The Scriptures teach:
Total depravity (inability to come to Christ)
Unconditional election (chosen before the foundation of the world)
Limited Atonement (Christ died for the elect)
Irresistible Grace (If a person is among the elect, they will be “drawn” without fail)
Perseverance of the Saints (All the elect will be kept by Jesus and raised up on that day)


3 posted on 11/10/2015 9:42:24 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
It is good you articulated TULIP so people can see the perverseness of it as a doctrine

JW's are TULIPians (144,000 ... same thing only different)

Marxists are TULIPians

Every class/segment of human society has it's own particular brand of elitist "Only me, not thee"

and Jesus says, "WHOSOEVER WILL may come"

7 posted on 11/10/2015 9:54:58 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Dutchboy88

I don’t think there is a basis for limited atonement.


8 posted on 11/10/2015 9:56:15 AM PST by ifinnegan
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