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“Christian” Abortion Doc Says:“I Love”Killing Babies in Abortions,“I’m Proud to Do So”
lifenews.com ^ | December 29, 2015 | Micaiah Bilger

Posted on 12/29/2015 11:20:04 AM PST by Morgana

Carolyn Payne grew up in a good Christian home with loving parents and opportunities to make the most of her life.

Instead, she decided to become an abortion doctor.

Payne, an Ob/Gyn resident (pictured above), wrote a shockingly bold column for the women’s website XO Jane about how her faith and upbringing influenced her to abort unborn babies for a living. Through her experiences, Payne flaunted her career goal and what she perceived as the importance of training programs for abortion doctors in the U.S.

“I love providing abortion care to women, and I am proud to do so,” Payne wrote, adding that she and many of her colleagues are “not afraid, embarrassed or ashamed to say so.”

Payne explained:

Who wants to be an abortion provider?

I do. And I don’t have a nose-ring or a tattoo. I’m a 5’ blonde from Ohio and my last boyfriend was a pastor. In fact my Midwest, Christian upbringing is largely responsible for my belief that providing abortion services is one of the most meaningful ways I feel I can contribute to making the world a more fair and equal place for women.

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… I never experienced unplanned pregnancy because I was fortunate enough to have parents who understood the normalcy of teenage sexuality, and provided me education and opportunities to prevent undesired pregnancy and disease. I could have sex, just like a man could, and go on with my life, with minimal fear of life-changing consequences (i.e. unwanted pregnancy).

I realize this is a privilege in our society and that is unjust. All women who desire contraception should have it; it’s necessary for women to be able to achieve their goals. Not because women are sluts, but because women are humans, and humans do have sex.

Payne clearly is very proud of her abortion work. In one revolting admission, she openly admitted that aborting an unborn baby for the first time made her and other abortion doctors-in-training “feel good” — though Payne never mentioned unborn babies in her column. She wrote:

To us, abortion training was something we advocated for in medical school, and actively sought out in our residency training programs. To us, abortion training was exciting, because it meant we were developing the skills necessary to provide women with safe reproductive healthcare. To many of us, the decision to receive training in abortion wasn’t “agonizing” at all as a recent corresponding piece in Yahoo! Health described. Rather, providing our first MVA [manual vacuum aspiration abortion] was a “feel good procedure,” because we had successfully performed an intervention that changed a woman’s life for the better!

No where did Payne mention what happens to the unborn child in an MVA abortion – how the unborn baby’s body is crushed and sliced and then suctioned out of the mother’s womb. Then the baby’s body parts are typically put into a bowl to make sure they are all there. This gruesome killing procedure was “exciting” to Payne.

But her shocking admissions did not end there. Payne argued that abortion makes life more “fair” for women who did not have the education or resources to prevent their pregnancies or simply thought a baby would get in the way of their education or career. She also claimed that abortions are “fair” to children:

And most importantly, I think it is fair to children, that they are born into a world where they are wanted, and loved, and cared for, and have the resources they need to thrive. I think abortion is a social good and a tremendous way in which physicians can contribute to a more socially just world.

Payne concluded with thoughts about possibly becoming pregnant in the future. Abortion is already in her mind if her “pregnancy” does not turn out as expected (no mention of her unborn child)– “I hope that my doctor will put my life and health first.”

That means I hope my doctor is trained to terminate pregnancies. I hope they get that training in medical school, residency, fellowship, and beyond. I also hope they feel good about it, because it is a good thing. Saving women’s lives, and enabling women to have both the public and private life she desires is a very good thing.

Payne’s musings are a disquieting look at how abortion doctors justify their horrific treatment – by completely ignoring the humanity of the unborn child.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: 2evil4words; abortion; abortionist; carolynpayne; carolynpayneg; christian; deathpanels; obamacare; prolife; zerocare
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To: Zuriel

When I was in school I did a persuasive speech on abortion, and one of the magazine articles I read was about a pro-abortion rally that was held outside an abortuary. They brought out one of the babies that had survived the abortion (I can’t remember what kind of abortion it was) and as the crowd watched the infant struggling to breathe and finally expiring they all cheered, like the hags in the Aslan death scene in “The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe”.

And that’s what those people are, in their depraved condition. Hags celebrating death just as surely as ISIS celebrates death.

I pray that they all repent, and that our entire nation turns from this evil and chooses life. Without repentance there is no hope for this nation or for any individual in it.


21 posted on 12/29/2015 11:46:29 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: servo1969

2 Corinthians 11:14.


22 posted on 12/29/2015 11:47:15 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: servo1969

2 Corinthians 11:14.


23 posted on 12/29/2015 11:47:15 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: Morgana

Oh’ God, I lift this woman up to you so you can touch her heart with your Holy Spirit and bring her to repentance for her sins...


24 posted on 12/29/2015 11:48:58 AM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Morgana

This is simple to figure out.
She may have grown up in a Christian home, but that does not make her a Christian.
Being a Christian is a “personal” decision. It doesn’t matter what home you grow up in .. that decision is yours alone.
And .. while some children have accepted Christ as a child, unless they have good teaching at their church AND AT HOME, they will often turn and go their own way.
Evidently, this could be exactly what this person did. She chose for herself to become an abortion doctor.
But, God doesn’t let go .. maybe someday she will return to HIM.


25 posted on 12/29/2015 11:49:43 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: Morgana
Rather, providing our first MVA [manual vacuum aspiration abortion] was a "feel good procedure," because we had successfully performed an intervention that changed a woman's life for the better! --from the article

It sounds like from the article "the doctor" has never had an abortion, for if she had, she'd never say anything as stupid as the above.

I'm guessing she doesn't spend too much time on the "Silent No More" website. This doctor is a "Payne" alright; a deadly pain to the baby and its mother [for a lifetime].
26 posted on 12/29/2015 11:52:40 AM PST by mlizzy (America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe/Wade has deformed a great nation. -MT)
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To: Morgana

Claiming Christianity in this instance is comparable, I suspect, to Bruce Jenner claiming to be female. Just because you say it, doesn't make it so.


27 posted on 12/29/2015 12:00:40 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: The Final Harvest

I agree with what you said.

Here is the but in that..
Some denominations do not teach what they should. As some FReepers have said in the past, some pastors don’t if hardly ever preach a pro life sermon.
What about those denominations with a Sunday school do they teach pro life topics? Since 1973 every place that calls it’s self Christian should have done so yet some have gone the other direction and teamed up with the enemy.

Then there are other issues as well. I could go on and on but suffice to say some houses of God are weak to start with and just don’t put out good Christians like they should. This woman thinks she’s Christian because, more than likely she attends church. A church, any church. A lot of people are like this and believe this. You and I know this reasoning is wrong but has not stopped a lot of others from thinking that is what makes you a Christian.


28 posted on 12/29/2015 12:01:58 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: butterdezillion

God is just. He did not forgive the nation of Israel for its many adulteries and He especially mentioned sacrificing their children. I now know why Daniel was sick after he saw the vision of judgment.

The king who legitimized it repented and judgment was delayed but not forgiven.


29 posted on 12/29/2015 12:10:13 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: servo1969

cute I suppose but evil lurks within....she is the very definition of a leftist....a proud murderer


30 posted on 12/29/2015 12:14:49 PM PST by xp38
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To: huldah1776

Well, Nineveh was saved through repentance, despite the best efforts of Jonah.

I don’t know why, but I find the Book of Jonah to be somewhat hilarious. It’s possibly I find amusement in the idea of someone running away to try and avoid doing as God commands.


31 posted on 12/29/2015 12:15:05 PM PST by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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To: PGR88

We all must choose Christ for ourselves, parents can’t do it for their children. It is possible that she has rejected all that her parents believe. I’ve seen it before and those who rebel sometimes do it in a big way, causing great heartache for the parents.


32 posted on 12/29/2015 12:16:09 PM PST by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: Morgana

I bet she’d be appalled at working in the kill room of a slaughterhouse.


33 posted on 12/29/2015 12:23:51 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Morgana

“some pastors don’t if hardly ever preach a pro life sermon”

As we all know, it should be a sermon, but also, there is a high likelihood that women in the congregation have had abortions.


34 posted on 12/29/2015 12:26:28 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: stylin_geek

Yes, God did send them a prophet and they did repent. As did the king of Judah and his grandson was Josiah under whose reign was a great revival. His son however, again, brought back the evil practice and the invasion occurred.

Nineveh was the capital of Assyria. So I’m hoping that God will send a great prophet to the world (probably going to be the 2 prophets of Revelation) because He would not judge the nations without first teaching the truth. It will be 40 years of legalized abortion in Israel in 2016. There are only 5 nations where abortion is illegal.


35 posted on 12/29/2015 12:34:42 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Popman

God bless you. Amen


36 posted on 12/29/2015 12:34:53 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: Morgana

An abortionist happens to be more of a butcher than a physician. What is one to make of a “medical procedure” whose sole purpose is to terminate a human life?


37 posted on 12/29/2015 12:39:55 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Morgana

I love how liberal progressives (whose god is actually themselves) always frame up a ‘Christian’ according to their world view so that it conforms. Now, to be sure, this is necessary. They then use such framing to “lecture” all other Christians to do the “christian” thing. In this case the effort is to fully christianize the satanic practice of abortion...nothing about sin changes. Satan ALWAYS makes it look innocent and good and helpful and such.

“The woman saw the tree as being good for food, delightful to the eye and a tree desirable to make one wise, so she took of it’s fruit and ate...” Gen 3:6

Humankind will do this with everything with the right excuse. It is only the power of an unchanging, holy and perfect God in our hearts that we can stand up against the temptations to satisfy self every time.

This woman has forsaken Christianity completely because she has told God what is and is not sin...”Surely you will not die” is in her heart and mind and played out in her actions.


38 posted on 12/29/2015 1:17:22 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Morgana

Christian is not a meaningful word for many these days...perhaps some other definition would identify us, but even saying born again is something akin to Christian.


39 posted on 12/29/2015 1:17:57 PM PST by Cottonpatch
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To: Morgana

She is no Christian.

Anyone who can delight in cold blooded murder is no Christian.

It is evident that she does have a seared conscience.


40 posted on 12/29/2015 1:19:28 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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