Posted on 02/04/2016 5:57:39 AM PST by NRx
They real need to get it somewhere. It’s absurd to think that they won’t.
God knows there is no pleasing a woman. How will he attend to the needs of his flock when he’s walking on eggshells at home?
What does this mean?
If they’re against it it’s because they want to keep their homosexual and pedophile club to themselves. Heterosexual priests would be seen as a threat.
The Catholic priesthood has become a gay men’s club. When I was a kid nearly every priest I knew was a real man and that was true until about 15 years ago. Now every Catholic priest I know is a limp wristed fairy. Every single one.
This is bullshorts. Other denominational clergy and other professions (e.g. schoolteachers, youth sports/athletic leaders, theatre and the performing arts mentors) have even more extensive homosexuality and child abuse problems, some of them stemming from their married staff, themselves.
There's no evidence whatsoever that married personnel will fend off these shameful abuses.
That is certainly not people’s experience in the Church at large. You may be in a corrupt patch.
That’s exactly the opposite of what is happening. Try finding one pro homosexualist catholic who supports things like ‘gay marriage’ and priestesses and abortion who also think the discipline of celibacy is valuable and should be continued. In fact, every liberal of any faith or none seems to invariably hate the Catholic discipline of celibacy and wants in ended.
The conservative Catholics are the ones that seem to find it valuable, at least that I have observed.
Freegards
Torn on this one. It seems a valuable practice, yet historically is an “innovation” not begun until the Middle Ages, so I’m not convinced of the necessity of it. Perhaps in a time of crisis in vocations it isn’t so unreasonable to reconsider.
They real need to get it somewhere.
What does this mean?
Answer: Rhymes with wussy
Bogus "history"; it's much older than that.
It began much earlier, bad historians teach otherwise. If a bishop is truly holy and preaches Our Lord Jesus Christ, young men flock to that diocese wishing to surrender their lives to His service. If the lesbian nun is in charge of the seminary, there are few vocations. This is a created ‘crisis’.
Not every Roman Catholic Priest is homosexual or practicing homosexual but I admit that many I have run into are. There are still some very good unselfish priests who are priests because they love God and want to serve him. Unfortunately there are many priests who are priests because it is a good place to find sexual partners.
The problem of homosexuality is not as big a problem in the Orthodox church where priests can be married, while many are not. In the Eastern Catholic church you must not be married if you wish to become a bishop.
There is no strictly religious or doctrinal reason for celibacy, the early church fathers started expounding on it and it was eventually canonized in the centuries after Constantine. The idea is that without a family you can devote your whole life to The Church and it’s members. You can be “married” to The Church and therefore to Christ.
The Apostles in the time of Christ were married except for Paul however there have been writers that say while they were married they did not have sex with their wives. There is absolutely no early doctrine or written support for this position.
I personally think celibacy is a mistake. While I admire those who can devote their lives to The Church I think the doctrine promotes homosexuality, pedophilia and adultery. God placed in man the desire for a woman if you deny the fulfillment of that desire then the desire turns into a fire that is never quenched until a horrible mistake is made. Once the mistake is made it then requires the sin to be hidden which moves the priest far from God and he becomes a shell of his former devoted self.
Marriage of priests would solve a lot of problems in The Church.
“Marriage of priests would solve a lot of problems in The Church.”
That’s not what happened for the UK Anglicans and Episcopalians.
“...I think the doctrine promotes homosexuality, pedophilia and adultery.”
Why do you think the most liberal Catholics, the ones that support priestesses, homosexuals clergy in relationships, and ‘gay marriage’ invariably want the discipline to end? I think they believe the Catholics will end up like the Anglicans and Episcopalians, not the Orthodox. I mean, why haven’t the liberal groups that have been pro-homosexual for 10 plus years instituted the discipline of celibacy, if it promotes all the stuff they want?
Freegards
“They real need to get it somewhere. It’s absurd to think that they won’t.”
So where in your opinion did Jesus “get it”? How about St. Paul?
For some reason it works among the Eastern Rite Catholics.
Been done in the Protestant community for years.
It began with the apostles, not in the Middle Ages.
Not atypical from this autocratic pope.
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