Posted on 02/06/2016 4:36:00 PM PST by John Leland 1789
An Open Letter to Independent Baptist Pastors
in the Indiana 9th Congressional District.
February 3, 2016 (Revised)
Our Christian Daughters Potentially Subject to Selective Service Registration
Dear Pastors:
At some point you will have to develop a genuine conviction from the Scriptures on issues related to (1) Christian women serving in the Armed Forces; (2) Christian women serving in combat roles; (3) Christian women being required by federal law to register for Selective Service (register for the draft).
American women have pushed their “rights†to serve in military functions alongside men, including in combat roles, to the point that now top Generals and others in Washington, DC are recommending that all American women be required to register for the draft at age 18 (draft age remains 18 to 25 years old).
Pastors, how will we counsel families who want to teach their daughters and granddaughters to be Titus Chapter 2 women? What about Christian families who have trained their children to build Biblical homes and families? The world and the devil want to destroy your church families, their children, and their children’s families.
The mind set of people in high places in Washington has obviously come to conclude, “Many women want to be deployed with men in combat, so all women must be made subject to it—this is equality.â€
We provide for you here two current Internet web sites which give a good idea as to how many people in Washington and elsewhere are viewing this subject:
http://www.examiner.com/article/should-women-have-to-sign-up-for-the-draft-military-officials-think-so?cid=sm-ip-facebook-020216-7.30pm-WomenInTheDraft
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/generals-women-register-draft-36665774
The Selective Service System exists to provide the U.S. Army with adequate numbers of combat troops when necessary in time of war. There has been no draft since 1973, but the Selective Service System has been left in place in case it is needed in future armed conflicts.
The Selective Service System does not exist to provide nurses or office workers, but only to provide ground combat troops (although even ground combat troops often must cook, do medical tasks, drive vehicles, etc.). Many American women have decided they want to be in combat duty with men, and some women’s organizations have also pushed for the rights of women to serve in foxholes alongside men. Military generals are now therefore saying, “Okay, women want to serve in combat, we should make it a requirement for women to also register for the draft—this is equal treatment.â€
It is our firm belief from the Scriptures that all of this flies directly in the face of sound Biblical Christian teaching on the family, home, womanhood, and motherhood. We preachers must take a stand.
My wife and I have four daughters. Two of our daughters are still young enough to be subject to registering for the military draft if the Congress is soon pressured sufficiently to change the Selective Service laws to include females. We also have, thus far, four granddaughters. Three of them would be subject to having to register for the draft.
We have been following this issue for twenty years. We have on file responses from elected representatives who served up to twenty years ago and are out of office now, including U.S. Representatives Lee Hamilton, Baron Hill, and Mike Sodrel. None of these believed we would ever see women in combat, so they also scoffed at my suggestion that one day women could be required to register for the draft.
But now we are actually hearing top military generals recommending to Congress that women from 18 to 25 years of age be required to register for the draft. Congress must be the body to change the Selective Service law to require women to register. The Pentagon nor the Selective Service System can put this into practice without Congress.
But(!) Congress is required to change federal law to allow women to serve in combat roles, too, according our congressman’s military issues spokesman, but it is being done without any change in law. That’s right! It should actually be illegal still to deploy females in combat roles or on front lines. Are the Armed Services are breaking the law? They get around this in discussion by saying things like, “Women are just driving trucks for the soldiers, they are not actually in combat.†Of course, they are dressed for combat, equipped for combat, trained for combat, armed with the same weapons as the men for combat, in the same combat vehicles on the same battle field, some of them maimed or killed alongside male combat soldiers. Some have been taken prisoner by the enemy! But according to a Washington staffer for U.S. Rep. Todd Young (R-IN) named Andrew Terp, “The women are not classified as being in combat, they are just driving the trucks or the Humvees.†All reading this letter know that this is simply subterfuge! This is lying! This is a way to worm around law and decency for political correctness!
Pastors! What will you say when young women, including young mothers, tell you that they were forced to register for the draft? What will you preach about family, home, motherhood, and childrearing, when and if young women and young mothers in your church tell you that they have been drafted into the Army and will serve in the infantry? What will you say when you know that godly young women will be forced to hang up their modest clothing and don combat uniforms and gear just like men?
You don’t have to tell us that many young women from independent Baptist churches are already voluntarily enlisting in the Armed Forces, that many are already dressing in camouflage battle dress just like men and undergoing combat-related training. They are part of the reason that Generals have come to think this is normal and so women should also be subject to any potential draft. Thanks a lot, girls(!)—you set an incredibly good Christian example! No, you have not!
Yes, even professing Christian girls, even many from our independent Baptist churches, have enlisted in the modern, politically correct Armed Forces and have abandoned their Christian modesty, example, and discretion. For whatever reason—college money, financial income, a career—they have damaged the next generation already with their young lives by failure to live Biblically. They also damage the nation at large in its Christian heritage. Much of this has resulted from failure in pulpits to consistently teach the saints what the Bible says about family, home, womanhood, motherhood, childrearing and training, purity, personal Christian witness, and many other subjects. Some times good teaching and preaching is simply ignored by families or young people, or rebellion against the Scriptures and preaching occurs.
The many thousands of women now trying to be just like men in the Armed Forces are the impetus and force behind the politically correct attitudes in the Pentagon, and now my own daughters and granddaughters, and yours, could be in serious conflict and danger. Think of your calling and your pastoral office. You will have to preach the Bible to families and young people through this potential threat upon Christian families and young women.
We urge you, Pastors, to explain these dangers to your church. These are not political issues; these are BIBLE issues—Christian family issues. We also urge you to begin a writing campaign to your federal elected representatives and try to prevent any change to the Selective Service law(s) that require women to register for Selective Service (the draft). If you fear to write letters because of your church has 501(c)(3) status, you could request Christians in your church to organize a letter-writing effort separately from the church, officially.
If you or any members of your church would like to have model letters to elected representatives on this subject, we will be glad to provide some. If you or your people write letters of your own and would allow us to have copies, we could pass them along to others as models.
Pastors, let’s not allow Washington to further damage our society in this way, or make it all the more difficult to raise Christ-honoring families with children available for Christ’s service.
Feel free to contact us with regard to our continued research and communications with elected officials. My mobile phone number is [Withheld] Our email is baptistcommittee@nym.hush.com or bcoc@pamphleteernet.com
Thank you for your kind attention for the sake of our daughters, families, our posterity, and our nation
In the Surety of His Blood,
Robert E. Patenaude, Th.D.
Philippians 1:6; 2:13
I found it. The soldier’s name was Jessica Lynch.
http://www.wnd.com/2003/11/21645/
Basically, the military is telling women to take birth control and be prepared to be raped in combat situations. Wow!
There is an alternative. Let our volunteer military do its job.
Military courts for combatants seem in order as well. Combatant rag heads with spying because they are out of uniform...give them a fair trial and shoot them.
Democrat Presidents, like LBJ warned NV of air attacks in the North to save civilian lives. The result: targets were fortified by newly entrenched AA, killing Americans. Now BHO warns ISIS fuel truck transports to protect civilians. 10-1 the enemy uses all civilians, 80% of the sorties return with bomb loads intact.
Sic, win, no war, no female combatants in a war zone and no draft.
JMO
Thanks for posting. Now is the time to start resisting this. I salute this pastor for taking the initiative. I am not independent Baptist, but I have some experience with them, and I know they take biblical teachings and living biblically very seriously. Jesus is Lord, not Caesar.
(Registering Women for the Draft Issue)
We must not allow the termites of social change to destroy from within what our military is ostensibly defending from without. We are whitewashing the exterior of the barn while the termites have eaten from the inside all the way out to the paint!
If we allow the Congress to require young American women to register for the draft, guess what they will do next? They will stir up a conflict in which to test the calling-up of recruits, including women.
There go your 18 to 25 year-old women, some who have babies or small children!
Do you not understand, Christian, how desperate the devil and this world are to humiliate and destroy your Christian family structure?
The social change agents will not be satisfied with registration of women for Selective Service (registering for the draft). They will at that point demand testing the compliance of women to it. This could require a call-up for some vague reason. "Never let a good crisis go to waste."
Further, they will design "alternative forms" of service for Christian (and other) conscientious objectors to fulfill their purpose of getting women OUT of their homes. Their goal includes destroying the nuclear family, and forcing dependence on government.
I'm want women in the military to be held to EVERY standard that males have.
Starting with high and tight haircuts.
I watch many women realize the folly of that once they enter the “real world”, even the real world buffered by affirmative action and special legal protections. By 30 they hate “playing man”, and they realize they certainly can’t “have it all”. The childless white ones resent the darker ones with families, and they don’t want the long hours/demanding schedules of high-paying careers. Decades after every opportunity was afforded to them to move into traditionally male career fields, they still too often retreat to less-demanding part-time careers without performance metrics like schoolteachers.
The fact that there is a renewed effort to push them into STEM careers after giving them whatever they wanted for decades says a lot, and hopefully gives them some insight into what men have dealt with for millennia.
I suspect men are between a rock and a hard place when it comes to looking after women when the perps are “protected minorities”; they’ve been legally emasculated. The American solution is to just avoid areas where “protected minorities” run rampant; I guess Germans will learn.
FWIW, females who demand equality should understand that includes looking after themselves physically.
“both left and right - encouraging their daughters to join the military. Some of us knew this would end up being a problem.”
So let me guess you agree with the Mayor of that German town that said that women and girls shouldn’t walk to close to the migrants to avoid be raped.
You know it’s their fault, the same as our fault for our daughters being to close too the moron feminist when they joined the military.
Why stop there? We could get rid of the 19th amendment and really make some progress to putting you women back into your proper place.
I’m very proud of my Airborne daughter following in my foot steps. I served 23 years and worked with a few female soldiers and while some couldn’t handle their jobs most were outstanding soldiers.
Females should NOT be allowed into combat in any capacity, but they have served for decades with honor and distinction. The problem didn’t start with the right, but with Satan and the defiance of God’s natural order.
Rahab served the Army of God faithfully, but didn’t enter into combat.
Equal, means equal. Equal does not mean equivalent.
If we cannot be allowed to keep certain jobs male only, because equal treatment is demanded, then equal means being treated exactly equal.
We are told all people are equal and demand equal treatment.
Anything less is either less than equal, or special treatment. One is not fair to one group, and one is not fair to the other.
Men are not respected for their unique talents and inherent and innate abilities. Men are not respcted for trying to protect women from stuff almost every guy doesn’t want to have to potentially face. They do not take the obvious as correct. They will have the proof.
This really got started in the early 90’s with the idiots at the tail hook convention in Las Vegas. The thought control commissars took over after that.
Well, you’re taking my point personally which I knew someone would do because several freepers are proud their daughters are serving. But I’m sorry it is a fact that many on the right encouraged their daughters to join the military and they have gone out and been killed, raped and mutilated as well as gone on to gaining stripes and prestige. And now their less macho sisters are going to be forced to bear the burden of being drafted. And it was you, me, and everyone else who stood around and watched Obama et al do it and we did nothing. Not a thing.
And, no, I don’t support repealing the 19th amendment. That’s silly.
Few of the women I went to college with wanted anything to do with STEM careers. Way too hard for them. And they were right. The few that survived first year engineering were very good and tended to be in the upper half of the classes.
Most were in very easy , heavy partying majors. Journalism, art/theatre, “somethings” studies, teaching, english, history, psychology, general business, non-accounting.
That’s been my experience as well; I’ve dealt with a few older women in financial services that were definitely the equal of any men (same knowledge and long hours), but they were the exception rather than the rule. Too many act as though we are working 9-5 unionized jobs (regardless of the field), and won’t work the longer hours long expected of men. At my job we men have taken their cue and are gone at 5; when we used to leave all the ladies’ cars were gone from the parking lot already. Non-discrimination laws should suffice to protect us in court if management ever tries to remedy this situation; technology today makes it so easy to track hours worked (log-in/log-out times, security cards to enter each day, keystroke counters, security cameras, etc.), and they can all be subpoenaed.
Agreed, and while any are subject to the draft, they should be the only citizens eligible to vote. Female or aged out? Fine, but no voting for you then.
“Well, you’re taking my point personally which I knew someone would do because several freepers are proud their daughters are serving.”
Actually I was responding to your lumping and combining all female military problems into one cause.
“But I’m sorry it is a fact that many on the right encouraged their daughters to join the military and they have gone out and been killed, raped and mutilated as well as gone on to gaining stripes and prestige.”
Gee wiz I’m glad none of that happens in the civilian world... You are speaking of something that you have no clue. The most dangerous thing that a GI can do is drive a personally owned vehicle!
While the media and apparently you think that murder, rape, and mutilation is worst in the military, but I can tell you that it’s considerable less in the military than in the civilian world. I know for a fact that a young adult is way safer in the military than in any facet of civilian life. Educate yourself and quit letting the morons in the media form your uneducated opinions.
“And now their less macho sisters are going to be forced to bear the burden of being drafted.”
There you go again your uneducated opinion is showing its full face. It has nothing to do with macho sisters it’s all about mental fortitude, self discipline, and the will power not to quit. You have watched way too much of Hollywood’s portrayal of the military to know what it’s really about.
“And it was you, me, and everyone else who stood around and watched Obama et al do it and we did nothing. Not a thing.”
You have no clue what I did or didn’t do to help or hurt the Obama campaign! Again you are showing your true face in passing your guilt and ignorance onto every one else. I’m not offended, but amazed at your willingness to talk like you know,but actually write accordingly to what you don’t know.
Food for thought Romans 13:1
Aside from the social, religious, military, feminist and family issues — if mandated for selective service, can a woman register as a “conscientious objector”? That is what Quakers do, and others who have true moral qualms about combat or weapons.
I oppose any idea of women forced into military service of any kind, for their sake and also for the sake of men in the service, and particularly children should not be left alone at home without their mothers. But I suggest the Conscientious Objector path as maybe an honest way to avoid combat.
She’s only four, yet living in SC I think I’d like my granddaughter to attend The Citadel in Charleston.
Though it may be subject to change, their currently is no obligation to serve in the military after graduation, though entry into the reserves as an officer is an option. And Citadel graduates are very well networked.
I was in the Army, including a year in Vietnam, and I at least believed then that military indoctrination was an overall positive experience for me. However, I am still unreservedly opposed to women in the field.
However, as things have changed quite negatively in both American society and in our military culture since obama, and it seems like it will take a miracle to put our country back on a Constitutional course, my attitude in this regard may also change.
Thirteen more years may seem like the blink of an eye if I can hold out until then.
Really? - You sound just like the Leftists that are trying to erase the difference between the sexes - they claim the same logic (from the article):
The mind set of people in high places in Washington has obviously come to conclude, Many women want to be deployed with men in combat, so all women must be made subject to it as this is equality.
Funny how so many of us do the RINO thing and aid/abet the Left while criticizing it - makes us the brain damaged ones we claim them to be.
I assume that since so many kids seem to want to know all about homosexuality and other perversions, that we ought to subject them all to mandatory, hands-on, "training sessions" too - or does that example help clarify the error in your "thinking"?
It’s interesting how often freepers resort to “you have no clue.” You know nothing about me so I wish you’d quit that - it doesn’t illuminate any of the problems with women in combat roles or those who are supposedly eligible for the draft.
I’ll say it again and you can move on to attacking someone else: I do not, and never have, approved of women in the armed forces. This is akin to gay marriage: overturning two millennia of received wisdom to satisfy some ridiculous social experiment that will inevitably fail. Comparing combat in the middle east to a car accident is one of the most inane statements I’ve seen on FR - and I’ve seen a lot of inane remarks.
So either argue without resorting to namecalling or buzz off. Preferably the latter.
"I assume that since so many kids seem to want to know all about homosexuality and other perversions, that we ought to subject them all to mandatory, hands-on, "training sessions" too - or does that example help clarify the error in your "thinking"?
Absurd example, total red herring.
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