Posted on 02/23/2016 8:17:35 AM PST by Salvation
If a person is making a claim to be Christian I believe they should act like a Christian, not in a hypocritical manner. I believe your Bible has several things to say about that.
Isaiah 29:13 “The Lord says, ‘These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men’”
Matthew 15:8-9 “ ‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”
Matthew 23:27 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people’s bones and all uncleanness.
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Your Bible tells us that we are to do certain things with those caught in error or sin Luke 17:3 So watch yourselves. "If your brother or sister sins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them. Matthew 18:15 "If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over.
I am merely applying the same standard
Matthew 7:1-2 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Don't you think all Christians should be held to the exact same standard, or is it on rule for one group and a different rules for another?
Like you did???
Luke 22:17 Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and said, “Take this and share it among yourselves, 18because I tell you, from now on I will never drink the product of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.” [ISV]
Matthew 26:27 Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you, 28 because this is my blood of the new covenant that is being poured out for many people for the forgiveness of sins. 29 I tell all of you I will never again drink the product of the vine until that day when I drink it with you once again in my Father’s kingdom.” [ISV]
Mark 14:25 verily I say to you, that no more may I drink of the produce of the vine till that day when I may drink it new in the reign of God.’ [Young's Literal Translation]
Then I am certain that you will gladly accept this exact same reply from anyone that holds an opinion contrary to yours.
MANY of my professors said the same thing.....just before they acknowledged my points of view and rewarded me with VERY high marks.
Read the post....my question was...did that person believe what I stated......and by the way, you didn't answer the question...please do it....do you insinuate that point of view????a simple yes or no will do.
Sorry, missed that one.
As Catholic I have severe theological disagreements with Protestants. I have no serous disagreements with the Orthodox, and a long-going but not currently acute disputation with the pre-Chalcedonians (Armenian, Coptic, etc.)
This is not a new position for me, and moreover it is also a mainstream Catholic position.
Now it is true that sometimes one comes across someone who argues the same points as the Protestant, receives mutual understanding and support from people self-identified as Protestants, but who nevertheless objects being called Protestant. I would never single out an individual poster if I can help it just because for me this is a matter of truth and faith that is universal. But by the same token I cannot be expected to keep a database on which poster objects to being called Protestant. “Protestant” is not a term of abuse and I will continue to use it when I see an argument that looks to me as identical to what the Protestant often make.
Further, if someone wants to discuss with me matters unique to his particular denomination, I would most likely decline. This goes for denominations that are indeed outside of the proper perimeter of the Protestant Reformation, such as Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Adventists, etc. Even more so it applies to people who would not disclose their denomination but would at the same time object when my generic criticism and ridicule of Protestantism gets them swept in.
The only way to avoid my critique and ridicule is not to have Protestant views on key points of faith or at least admit that these views are a result of speculation and not reading of the Holy Scripture. Please try your best at that, and we’ll do swell.
Now it is about a third time that you say I “twisted” something. What is it I twisted?
Remind me. We’ll discuss the veneration of Mary when we don’t have an ongoing discussion on the Holy Eucharist and the Protestant denials of a plain scriptural teaching on it.
You have to “excel in good works” (Titus 3:8). You could start by apologizing for saying that I don’t substantiate my position, when I both post the relevant scripture and explain why my opponents contradict it.
Since your argument is gutted, it's time for you to move on now.
Hoss
GOOD GRIEF MA'AM, you and others say it all the time....just believe and everything is O.K......faith alone is enough...etc.etc.
That might be your belief, but the Scripture says otherwise. Luke 22:19, etc.
I’ll move on when my opponents admit that at the Last Supper Jesus meant what He said: “this is my body”.
That's what happens when individuals attempt to interpret the bible on their own....disaster.
For sure, Peter was not saved by faith on the eve of the crucifixion:
"And the Lord said: Simon, Simon, behold Satan hath desired
to have you, that he may sift you as wheat.
But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and
thou, being once converted, confirm thy brethren" (Lk. 22:31-32 DRB).
Peter was not then a man of faith, a true follower ehose allegiance was to Jesus. Why, look! He denied the man he fawned on as "Master" six times before the full rising of the sun. He was not yet fitted for the Master's approval and use. As Jesus had taught him at the beginning:
"Every one therefore that shall confess me before men, I
will also confess him before my Father who is in heaven.
But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him
before my Father who is in heaven" (Mt. 10:32-33 DRB).
So when the real impact of his denials, which completely destroyed his self-image of faithfulness, he cried bitterly. Even after Jesus' resurrection and walking with them, did he strengthen the brethren by reenlisting as a base-plate humper instead of trying to be the platoon leader?
You bet--not!
Instad, he left those at Jerusalem, declared "I go a-fishing," and headed back to the Genessaret to reclaim his old livelihood, siphoning off some of his pals. thus weakening the little huddle of loyal followers. And not for the first time, either.
"So likewise every one of you that doth not renounce all that he possesseth cannot be my disciple" (Lk. 14:33 DRB).
It was soon after, on the shores of the lake, that Jesus reinstated him as a lowly "sheep-feeder" (not the leader).
Sorry.
How do you explain Rome's lies?
Hoss
Just an off hand statement...you say that and Chapter and verse please, constantly....but you NEVER provide the same for your illogical statements.
Remind me. We’ll discuss the veneration of Mary when we don’t have an ongoing discussion on the Holy Eucharist and the Protestant denials of a plain scriptural teaching on it.
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