Mysterious artifact discovered at Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity

Fox News ^ | February 24, 2016

[Joe 6-pack]

I did like some of the cold war period aspects of Crystal Skull, but they were not enough to salvage the miserable plot.

[Little Ray]

My wife pointed out that “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom” was actually a Voodoo zombie movie. I suspect the original intended setting was the Citadelle in Haiti.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citadelle_Laferrière

The SJWs in studio probably decided that the setting would be ‘insulting’ to Voodoo (and probably zombies...) and ‘racist’ so they upped and moved the whole thing to India.

[Unam Sanctam]

A reliquary? If so containing what?

[Lee'sGhost]

Perhaps it’s the check from the Last Supper.

[cloudmountain]

I did like some of the cold war period aspects of Crystal Skull, but they were not enough to salvage the miserable plot.

True enough.
Irina Spalko, who played the EEVIIIILLE Russian, just about STOLE the show. :o)

[NYer]

A reliquary? If so containing what?

According to the other link I posted above, the object is an icon.

[Hieronymus]

Jesus didn’t spend a lot of time in Jerusalem, having only visited it two or four times (depending on the source) before he died on the cross.

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What do you make of the Gospel of John? Or do you reject it as a source? That has at least five distinct visits, not counting the raising of Lazarus, and Luke has two more, for a minimum of 7. As an observant male adult was expected to make all 3 of the pilgrimage feasts annually, it seems reasonable to assume more unrecorded.

[cloudmountain]

If you go to Catholic Answers, Catholic.org or Catholic Online you will find the answers that the Catholic Church has...not from posters here, from whichever side of the issue.

The answers on DOGMA are all the same. The answers on tradition will reflect different traditions, which IS kopesthetic.

[Hieronymus]

The official answers from the Church have to be from magisterial sources of a certain level—not the sites you sight. Small “t” tradition can go a lot of ways—but John and Luke are part of public revelation, and as I understand the Church’s teaching on scripture, there isn’t any way around holding that what they say to have happened happened.

I don’t see anyway around John presenting at least five distinct trips into Jerusalem which are distinct from the two at the beginning of Luke. Any tradition that excludes John or Luke is NOT kopesthetic from a Catholic perspective.

And I do know a fair bit about how the Catholic Church expects people to study the Bible—I teach a course to college freshman on the subject every year and have studied the relevant documents with some depth.

[cloudmountain]

The sites I wrote are simply for questions from all/any regular folks.
THIS is the Vatican web page. It's huge.

http://w2.vatican.va/content/vatican/en.html

[cloudmountain]

I respect all four Gospels as the Word of God.

[cloudmountain]

It's a VERY interesting read and study about (3rd century or so) how the early Church went about choosing which writings were to appear in the New Testament.

Apparently there were thousands of manuscripts written and circulated so they all had to be studied and evaluated by the early Catholic Church's Magisterium so as to discern what would finally be selected for the New Testament.
The Holy Spirit was hard at work, so to speak.

[Hieronymus]

It is fascinating—and complex.