Perpetual virginity

OSV.com ^ | 03-09-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[Elsie]

If it is good not to touch a woman, it is bad to touch one:

Someone did NOT get a passing grade in Logic 101!

[Elsie]

How dare you try and confuse the protestants on this thread using facts and quoting scripture multiple times.

How dare you try and support the Catholics world-wide by using facts not in evidence and quoting scripture multiple times out of context.

[Elsie]

Another protestant claim with no support biblical or otherwise.

A catholic bemoaning the lack of Scriptural support??

Well; THIS is a first!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

" It comes SOOOO naturally. All right now, no bragging! 😊☺️😜

[Elsie]

There is, interestingly, no specific word for brother(s) in Aramaic.

Was there one for cousin? for AUNT?? for UNCLE???

[aMorePerfectUnion]

"Yes, I didn't mean to infer that women don't want it. I know they do. Again?? ☺️☺️☺️

[Elsie]

I can just imagine Joseph asking, "Mary, are you awake?"

Get yerself banned and leave me out of it!

[rwa265]

Christians of that time was a reference to the 4th century. The historical record indicates that Mary’s perpetual virginity was a widely held belief at that time. As I wrote, I cannot point to any documents prior to the 2nd century.

[Elsie]

Ah... Peter.

Called SATAN by Jesus himself.
Denied the Lord three times.
Assignment: feed my sheep.
First Pope (so we've been told)
Writes a letter; then another...

 

 

1 Peter 1:1-3,17-23 (NIV)

1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,

To God’s elect, exiles scattered throughout the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia, ² who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood:  (WHAT!!?? not DRINK His blood?)

Grace and peace be yours in abundance.

³ Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, ⁴ and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. (WHAT!!??  We've been born AGAIN??)

 

 

¹⁷ Since you call on a Father who judges each person’s work impartially, live out your time as foreigners here in reverent fear. ¹⁸ For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, ¹⁹ but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. ²⁰ He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. ²¹ Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.

²² Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart.^{[b] 23} For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.

[af_vet_1981]

No doubt here. James (Jacob) is the womb-brother of Jesus. Very plain. No nuances.

No doubt ?

Who believed as you and taught that Mary was not ever Virgin ? When did that teaching start ?

[Elsie]

List of NT books which teach or prophesy ...

??

I think you meant...

List of NT books which DO NOT teach or prophesy

[Elsie]

There's something seriously wrong with a man who does not want sex.

[Elsie]

Watch it!

[Elsie]

WHY do you believe your faith hangs in the balance over this doctrine?

If they lose THIS; then the whole charade; sooner or later; falls apart!

[Elsie]

I can also imagine how it might make certain individuals heads explode,

Keep it up and our Catholic Freepers will run to Mother and this thread (and possibly YOU) will DISAPPEAR!

[Elsie]

Ah, if Jesus was Mary’s firstborn, who was the second-born, eh?

FIRST implies more than one; else ONLY would have been more correct to use.

Jesus is GOD's only Son; NOT Mary's!

[ealgeone]

Christians of that time was a reference to the 4th century. The historical record indicates that Mary’s perpetual virginity was a widely held belief at that time. As I wrote, I cannot point to any documents prior to the 2nd century.

That should be the first sign the wheels were coming off the wagon.

[Elsie]

The historical record indicates that Mary’s perpetual virginity was a widely held belief at that time.

WHAT Record???

[Elsie]

Who believed as you and taught that Mary was not ever Virgin ? When did that teaching start ?

MAy as well ask:

Who believed as you and taught that water is wet? When did that teaching start ?

[Elsie]

That should be the first sign the wheels were coming off the wagon.

No; JOHN reported THAT fact in the LAST book the Catholics put in the bible; chapters 1-3.